[ANSTHRLD] Processional position

[ravenrux at cox.net]

Given what I've seen from most of the Flag and field grade officers I've ever met, I quite imagine that pomp, circumstance, and ego have much to do with this tradition, especially since officers tradtionally come from the upper crust anyways.

Masamune

Yep.  That's military etiquette.  Junior officer is last in/first out.  I'm
not sure if it has to do with gentlemanly (gentlewomanly) manners afforded
to a senior officer, or if it is based on the junior officer being more
sacrificial, for instance.  Get the senior officers into the car and covered
first, so the junior officer is more at risk of getting shot.  The junior
officer gets out first to see that all is clear before the senior officers
get out.  If the junior officer gets shot before they get out, they know not
to get out of the car. :)  I've found that most military etiquette/protocals
often have some practical application associated with them that go beyond
good manners. 

~Alden

PS - my co-worker (former Army) laughingly agrees.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacquie Ziegler [mailto:shauna at bresnan.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:57 PM
To: Heralds List,Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
Cc: Lady Tarimaat/Aletheia
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Processional position


Greetings!

> Mistress Shauna of Carrick Point did write:
> >  Now, THAT I would have paid money to see (and would probably have been
near
> >  the back of the procession, anyway, since I was PH for Artemisia at the
> >  time - as to why the back, anybody junior able to answer?)
> Because Artemisia is one of the newest kingdoms.
> Alasdair "I am not a herald, but I can spell heraldry" MacEogan

No, not really. If you check out the processionals in England, which they
still do, the junior pursuivants and heralds are first, with the senior
heralds and Kings of Arms behind them, closest to the Royals that they are
escorting.

Same principal as naval ceremony, actually - junior member gets to waiting
conveyance (boat or carriage or car) and holds door/ladder for senior
members to get into conveyance, then gets in last. When arriving at
destination, junior member gets out first and holds door/ladder for senior
members, then gets to the front of the line to get to the door of wherever
they are entering to, again, hold the door for the senior members.

Shauna
(not a naval type, but have a close friend who just got _her_ bird in the
Naval Reserve, so I know a bit about the whole junior/senior thing. Army
does it too.)

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