[ANSTHRLD] several questions

Paul E. Kiefer, Jr. rapierman at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 19 15:43:40 PST 2004


--- Leslie Rose <aggileslie at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have a client who would like to register the following:
> 
> Azure, a fox sejant regaurdant within a border dovetailed, or.
> 
> Does anyone see any problems with this that I'm not seeing?

Well, for one thing, you can drop the second comma and you need to
capitalize the "Or" part, but nothing else as far as that goes.

 Also I
> wasn't 
> able to find what I thought was a conflict but then I'm just starting
> to 
> understand the conflict part of heraldry.

I pulled up my handy-dandy O & A program and the closest thing I found
was from Connor Buchanan (Midrealm, September 1995):  "Azure, a
bicorporate lion within a bordure Or."  This can be cleared two ways:

1.  The lion vs. the fox for one CD (type, under RfS X.4.e) and the
posture (lion's default posture vs. fox's "sejant regardant", under RfS
X.4.h) for another CD;

2.  This is simple heraldry, going by RfS X.2, which says that if there
are no more than two types of charges directly on the field, then it is
completely and substantially different if there is a difference in the
types of primary charge.  In your case, you have just the bordure
dovetailed and the fox as opposed to a bordure dovetailed and a
bicorporate lion; each of these have only two different types of
charges.  The bordures are secondary, so we look at the primary and we
have the fox vs. the lion, which are completely different charges;
thus, it falls under RfS X.2.

> This same client wants to know if you can register a fieldless badge.
>  I 
> have no idea.

Absolutely, you can!  As long as all the charges are conjoined in some
form or another, or there's only one charge, barring conflicts or any
other problems, you can register a fieldless badge and it'll get an
automatic CD (See RfS VIII.5 and RfS X.4.iii)

Lord Johann Kiefer Haydon (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
Plain ol' herald

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