[ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Faux Pas

Jann Mays hlgabrielle at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 7 19:21:50 PDT 2005

That's just Daniel's way.  He just adds to those little Heraldic Faux Pas with
a slight air of sarcasm, which is usually fun, you just gotta take it the right
way. :)  It's just that he's seen soooo much bad heraldry as I'm sure many of
us have. :D

HL Gabrielle

--- tmcd at panix.com wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Charles Ó Floinn <Tons at raf662bravo.com> wrote:
> > "Tim McDaniel" <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Charles Ó Floinn <Tons at raf662bravo.com> wrote:
> > > > Now on to another question.  I am making a Heralds Tabbard for my
> > > > Shire.  I have been listening to comments for several months now and
> > > > believe I need to directly ask one question of this august
> > > > group. (yes, just one).  The College of Heralds crossed trumpets
> > > > emblem.  Some have told me it can go on anything a herald wears,
> > > > others have told me that it only rightfully belongs on a item used
> > > > by the College specifically.
> > >
> > > I would say that the crossed trumpets should only go onto something
> > > only if it is used for heraldic purposes.
> Which wasn't one of the two choices, of course.
> > > For a tabard for an SCA branch, the best thing is to have the branch's
> > > arms front, back, and sleeves.
> > >
> > > The concept of a "heralds' badge" is out of period, so I like to
> > > discourage it.  If you want a generic tabard, though, you could indeed
> > > put the crossed trumpets front, back, and sleeves.
> > >
> > > Please do NOT mix and match.  All period heralds' tabards and surcoats
> > > I've seen have the same design on each part.  And please do not do
> > > quartering: that would mean that you're the herald of the heir of the
> > > shire and the College of Arms, and I do *not* want to visualize THAT.
> >
> > I am no longer making the heraldic tabard for my shire.
> Um, did I offend you?
> I didn't mean to imply that having a crossed-trumpets tabard was bad.
> While I would encourage the branch arms on the branch's own tabard, I
> can see uses for the crossed trumpets.
> - If the group's arms are too difficult to sew.  *grin*
> - If you want a tabard that you can take to other groups' events.  In
>   an ideal world, they'd have enough of their branch tabards to fit
>   all their field / camp heralds -- but that ideal is rarely achieved.
>   Or, alternately, you can choose not to wear any tabard (if you yell
>   something official at people, they can figure out you're a herald.)
>   But having a crossed trumpets tabard gives something to wear.
> Danyell de Lyncoln
> -- 
> Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com
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