[ANSTHRLD] conflict checking
tmcd at panix.com
Thu Aug 24 13:52:31 PDT 2006
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Can I please get some help conflict checking the following?
> Per bend argent and gules, three roses in bend counterchanged.
Instaboing for use of the reserved charge "Tudor rose".
The CoA Glossary of Terms, Table 2, Restricted Charges, says
Name Blazon Symbol of
---- ------ ---------
Tudor Rose The combination of a Tudors
rose argent and a
rose gules, whether as a
double rose or in some
other manner which
creates a half-white,
One of the more famous Tudor rose representations is a double rose: on
a red rose a white rose, or the reverse, sometimes crowned. But
that's not the only combo.
The August 1999 LoAR, Ansteorran returns, has a directly applicable
Rouland Blackwell. Device. Per pale gules and argent, six roses
[three, two, and one] counterchanged.
This is returned for using the restricted charge, the Tudor
rose. The two roses that lie on the line of division are per
pale argent and gules, which is one form of the Tudor rose.
Or, for another example case, January 2001 LoAR:
Juliana Kendal. Device. Or, a Kendal flower proper within a bordure
The Kendal flower, when proper, is a six petaled rose of
alternating argent and gules petals. This makes it a variant
of a Tudor rose, as the Tudors combined white and red roses in
various manners. Tudor roses are restricted charges and
cannot be registered.
If the proposal instead had two roses on one side of the "per bend"
line and one rose on the other, making solid-colored roses, it would
avoid this problem.
Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com
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