[ANSTHRLD] Is this normal? Is there a tracer system?

[Tom Johnson]

Greetings Caius,

I would say, no it is not normal.  However, it does happen and we can only 
strive toward a goal of zero lost or wandering submissions.
Yes, there is a tracking system and you can go there via herald's page on 
ansteorra.org.  There are a few things that you and I need to sit and talk 
about.  I recieved your application to become the herald for the Canton of 
Skorragardr.  Email me privately at tdj_ent at hotmail.com to set up a time and 
place.



Aim, Shoot and Be Merry
Lord Thomas Quilliam
Nordsteorra Herald




>From: "Caius Fabius" <caius_fabius at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,  Inc." 
><heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
>Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Is this normal?  Is there a tracer system?
>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:46:50 +0000
>
>Lost in space/time
>
>About two years ago, a gentleman in my group put a completed and researched
>submission for his name and device, and paid for it with a check (he still
>has the cancelled check).
>
>It still hasn't made it to commentary.    One time problem?  Not really,
>when I submitted my name change a few years ago, it took over 20 months to
>get submitted to kingdom.  Of course, I was stupid enough to pay cash, and
>finally gave up and resubmitted through another group.  This is a totally
>different herald, and group, but I am seeing a possible pattern.
>
>Is anyone else having these problems?  How many of the folks who make good
>faith submissions and do the research are left hanging?  Especially if they
>know nothing about the system and just keep asking someone who is at a low
>level for information?  Has this become so difficult that the average guy 
>or
>gal coming in to a local herald has to look forward to months and months of
>waiting before their name and device receive commentary?
>
>I am not mentioning names, or even groups, but I am interested if other
>people in Ansteorra have been having these problems?  Is it a fault of
>inexperienced heralds?  No one comes into this pursuit knowing all of the
>answers, (well, maybe Da'ud Bob was born with most of the necessary
>knowledge), but who is checking up on new heralds, and experienced but
>burned out folks who are trying ( or not)....but the job just doesn't 
>always
>getting done.
>
>Why do I ask?  Because I may return to being a local herald, and I don't
>know enough, even though last century I went to a World Heraldric and some
>various kingdom heraldic colleges.   There is a lot of helpful stuff on
>line, but checking conflicts and blazoning correctly don't help a bit, if
>the submissions never get submitted to Kingdom level....
>
>Is there a tracer system?  Especially after the local herald is two or 
>three
>   incarnations later than the one who accepted the original submission.  
>Is
>there a fast track for people who have been bumped by the system?
>
>Just my 2 pence on a problem that I hope is only local.
>
>curious ........
>Caius Fabius
>
>
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