[ANSTHRLD] Is this normal? Is there a tracer system?

Mon Jun 26 09:47:48 PDT 2006

Well, mine was done in 9 months...

Let's see if we can really explicate this...

We start the "clock" when Asterisk receives the submission.  There is
no way to measure how long it takes at local, which is where the major
hang ups happen..

So, Faelen, assusming that the local get the submission to Asterisk
before the 15th of the month...

Month 1, submission to Asterisk by 15th.  If not, then wait one more month.
Month 2, submission appears in Internal Letter of Intent, published in
the Gazette and online for everyone to see.
Month 3, commentary due on submission by 20th of month. (This gives
about 6 weeks for internal commentary - the rest of month 2 and some
of month 3.)
Month 4, hold internal decision meeting, produce Letter of Intent and
publish to Laurel.  Since there is some time between the Decision
Meeting and the LoI, it is a good thing for the local who has an item
in that decision meeting to attend so that any issues which might
cause return can be remedied, if possible before the LoI is published.
Month 5-6 CoA commentary
Month 7 CoA responses.
Month 8-9 decision meeting, production of LoAR (including proofing and
mailing and publication).

Laurel, BTW, is pretty much caught up these days.

We can get bumped from the decision meeting at Laurel for a number of
reasons, forms got lost, check got lost (yes, these are US postal
issues).

You can track this information online via the Heraldic Submissions
Tracker and via the Cover Letters of the LoARs which are posted online
as well. We have links on our webpage or you can go straight to the
sca.org site to track them down.

And yes, I am specifically not giving URLs to these site.  I want you
to go look at the heralds' webpage and see all of the other cool stuff
on it as well.

Druinne
Star

On 6/26/06, Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net> wrote:
> Correct.  At least 9 months for the decision.  Add another 2-3 for the LoAR
> to get published.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Faelan Caimbeul
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:44 AM
> To: 'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Is this normal? Is there a tracer system?
>
>
> So on average, 9-12 months to get a submission back?
>
> Faelan
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Alasdair MacEogan
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 AM
> To: 'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Is this normal? Is there a tracer system?
>
> You are missing the 3 months in kingdom to allow for kingdom commentary and
> decisioning.  General rule is 3 months in kingdom and 4 at Laurel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Faelan Caimbeul
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:54 AM
> To: 'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Is this normal? Is there a tracer system?
>
>
> Ok, so let me see if I understand all this right.
>
> 1. Submitter talks to local herald, writes up paperwork, and sends to
> Kingdom in January. 2. Kingdom reviews submission, and sends it up to Laruel
> in February. 3. March and April is primary commentary by "everyone". This is
> then boiled down to the "good stuff" and send out for round two. 4. May is
> round two and then everything is sent back to Laurel. 5. June the commentary
> is put together for the "final draft" an sent for approval. 6. July Laurel
> disapproves (and submission goes back to step 3) or approves the submission.
> 7. August and September the LOAR is prepared for March and published.
>
> Is this basically accurate?
>
> Faelan (struggling hard to understand the mechanics of this all)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of tmcd at panix.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:24 PM
> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Is this normal? Is there a tracer system?
>
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Faelan Caimbeul <faelancaimbeul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just curious, why does it take Laurel six months to get submissions
> > done? We do them here in a day, and Kingdom within a month.
>
> But eighteen kingdoms?  It's roughly 300 items per month.
>
> The Laurel commentary period used to be three months, with one full month
> for primary commentary and one full month for commentary on commentary.
> Bruce went to a weird schedule.  Da'ud 2 went to four months (2 primary + 1
> reply), and tried to get it set back to three months (1 + 1 again) but was
> shouted down by the College of Arms. Too many commenters were permanently
> behind by a month, using the second month for their primary commentary.
>
> I see one advantage to full month(s) being used in the deadlines: it allows
> a commentary group to choose any day of the month that's convenient.
>
> Daniel de Lincolia
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