[ANSTHRLD] Who wants to gimme a hand here?

[James]

Makes sense. Learn something everyday. :)
You folk are going to end up suckering me in and I'll be knee deep in books
before I realize it. I'm a little bit of a compulsive researcher, but  I
can't budget
enough time to go into too many more things at the moment. :)
I already compressed time with the kids and SCA projects together.
(making a helmet with my son and a dress with my daughter now) hehe
All I have left really is sleep and work... I need work, and I like my
sleep.
*rofl*
You guys will get me eventually though.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Rudin" <rudin at ev1.net>
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Who wants to gimme a hand here?


> Facing the same way isn't required, but it is better heraldic style.  The
> modern eye prefers symmetry, as you have drawn it.  (Reflected in a
mirror,
> it looks the same.)  But the medieval eye preferred repetition -- each
raven
> looks like the other.
>
> A glance at the shields or banners at any event will show you that the
> modern approach is acceptable -- it just would be more medieval if they
both
> faced to the (shield's) right.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James" <bajula at windfire.net>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
> <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Who wants to gimme a hand here?
>
>
> > ahhh okay. They are supposed to be ravens. I took the pic part from the
> > dublin raven. but I guess the hairy ones could do as well. I really
> > thought
> > three of them for a while, but the whole
> > odin follower persona thing fit better with two. forethought and
hindsight
> > I
> > think are better facing opposite directions. but that might have been
just
> > a
> > 'looks' thing in my own head, if it's "mo' betta" with them being hairy
> > and
> > facing the same direction I can do that. I just can't DRAW it. *rofl*
> > I can do the non hairy ones. haha. Facing the same way shouldn't be a
> > biggie.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jennifer Smith" <jds at randomgang.com>
> > To: "'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'"
> > <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 1:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Who wants to gimme a hand here?
> >
> >
> >> James wrote:
> >> > Disclaimer before you screech in pain or anger at me :) I did a
little
> >> > reading, but only enough
> >> > to know I know diddly about heraldry. I 'think' this is okay. and I
am
> >> > fairly sure it doesn't
> >> > conflict with anything, but blazons make my brain hurt.
> >>
> >> Hey, questions are what this list is for! No disclaimer necessary.
> >>
> >> >[...]
> >> > it is at http://www.windfire.net/test.jpg
> >>
> >> I would blazon this as "Vert, a valknut and on a chief Or two birds
> > (ravens?
> >> Not hairy enough) close respectant sable."
> >>
> >> > I heard heralds don't like the valknut so forgive me on that
> >> > part, if you
> >> > will. Other than that feel
> >> > free to verbally tear it to shreds. :)
> >>
> >> The valknut was ruled still acceptable as a charge as recently as June
> > 2002,
> >> and was registered as recently as March 2006:
> >>
> >> [Sable, a valknut inverted argent] The Letter of Intent asked us to
> >> rule on whether the valknut should continue to be registered. As noted
in
> >> the LoAR of September 1993, the valknut is a period artistic motif
which
> > was
> >> not used in period heraldry. It was incorporated into SCA heraldry and
> >> has
> >> been registered infrequently but steadily thereafter. The September
1993
> >> argument in favor of the valknut's registration appears to continue to
> > hold
> >> true. It is identifiable when inverted, just as a triangle is
> >> identifiable
> >> when inverted.
> >>
> >> Would-be users of the valknut should take note of the fact that its
> >> "thin-line" nature can make it difficult to identify. Poor contrast,
> >> small
> >> size or overlying charges are all likely to render it unidentifiable.
> > Since
> >> this device uses the valknut as the only charge on a high contrast
field,
> > it
> >> maintains its identifiability splendidly. [Esteban de Quesada, 06/02,
> >> A-Lochac]
> >>
> >> So I'd say that part is good to go. A quick glance through both the
> >> 'knot'
> >> and 'triangle' categories in the online O&A didn't turn up any
conflicts.
> > It
> >> would be better period style if the two birds faced in the same
> >> direction,
> >> and there were three of them, but that's just my preference. :)
> >>
> >> -Emma
> >>
> >>
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