[ANSTHRLD] Okay I'm a little confused now.

Chiara Francesca chiara.francesca at gmail.com
Wed Oct 11 10:04:39 PDT 2006


My maiden name is Francesca Vecchio, both names are period, (changed
spelling to Franchesca legally cause I got tired of most American's
mispronouncing it, wish I hadn't), I registered Chiara Francesca Arianna
d'Onofrio. Even knowing this rule I went ahead and documented each name in
the period of my persona. It passed first try.

You can use a part of your legal name, not the whole.

Another example is one of our past Queen's, Athena.

What is your sca name?

Chiara

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bajula" <bajula at windfire.net>
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Okay I'm a little confused now.


> I've been lurking and just reading stuff, checking out links people send..
> While I have an interest in the names and heraldry bit, I'm not sure how
> much I can take before my brain explodes. :)
> Since the link to the rules of submission was brought up I got bored and
> went and read it..
> Now I've heard repeatedly on this list and verbally that you cannot
> register
> your legal name. (maybe I picked it up out of context?) If I misunderstood
> that's okay too. just someone clear up for me this bit.
> <start quoted bit>
> 4. Legal Names. - Elements of the submitters legal name may be used as the
> corresponding part of a Society name, if such elements are not excessively
> obtrusive and do not violate other sections of these rules.
>
> This allows individuals to register elements of their legal name that
> cannot
> be documented from period sources. The allowance is only made for the
> actual
> legal name, not any variants. Someone whose legal given name is Ruby may
> register Ruby as a Society given name, but not Rubie , Rubyat , or Rube .
> Corresponding elements are defined by their type, not solely their
> position
> in the name. This means a person with the legal name Andrew Jackson could
> use Jackson as a surname in his Society name in any position where a
> surname
> is appropriate, such as Raymond Jackson Turner or Raymond Jackson of
> London
> , not just as his last name element.
> <end quoted bit>
>
> So which is it?
>
> And since I was driven by this burning question to post anyway, If you
> feel
> like pointing a fella in the right direction for newbie "Hey dude I wanna
> learn heraldry" questions ...
> You know.. to places that are for people who DON'T see a picture in thier
> head when they see a blazon... :) Feel free to point away. books, websites
> .. whatever.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
>> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of tmcd at panix.com
>> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:15 PM
>> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
>> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Help needed on a Conflict check on a badge
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Luciana Caterina di Boniface <dolce.luce at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > OOOohhhh! I did not realise that this applied to the other fieldless
>> > badges also. It was said to me, on multiple occasions, that
>> > (Fieldless) counted for 1 CD, but noone ever came flat out and said
>> > it as simply and specifically as you just did.
>>
>> Rules for Submission X.4.a.iii:
>>
>>     iii.  Fieldless Difference - A piece of fieldless armory
>>      automatically has one clear difference from any other armory,
>>      fielded or fieldless.
>>
>>      Tinctureless armory and Japanese mon are considered to be
>>      fieldless for this purpose.
>>
>> I suggest that anyone who is getting into armory or name heraldry
>> should download and read the applicable sections of the Rules for
>> Submission (available under <http://sca.org/heraldry/>).  It would be
>> astonishing if you remember all the details -- I don't -- but some of
>> the rules may stick, and you'll likely get an idea of the sorts of
>> things that are in the RfS.  Also, if your copy is downloaded, you can
>> then search for words like "fieldless" or "conjoined".
>>
>> Danel de Lincoln
>> --
>> Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com
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