[ANSTHRLD] Help please: "summary" in the Name Documentation area

[Siren Song]

ok so how does this look? I think it incoorporated both of your suggestions...

Úna Carleton

  For the Name Úna
     Una is shown to be used from 1301 forward in the Annals
     Standard forms of this name (based on spelling systems of different periods) would be: 
  Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) form: Úna
     Initial information complied from http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/1201-1600.shtml
  Gaelic Feminine Names
     Donnchadh Ó Corráin and Fidelma Maguire, Irish Names, 2nd edition (Dublin, Ireland: Lilliput Press, 1990).
     Thurneysen, Rudolf, ed. Scéla Mucce Meic Dathó, Mediaeval and Modern Irish Series, Volume VI. (Oxford, Great Britain: University Press, 1932). The Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies, 1975 reprint.
   
  For the Name : Carleton
     4 men were listed with the name surname Carleton in the 1523 York and Ainsty subsidy roll in the reign on King Henry VIII
     Carleton comes from an index based on information from the 1523 York and Ainsty subsidy roll transcription:
  The Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Journal Vol. IV, 1877, transcribed by Peter Nelson http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/SubsidyRolls/ARY/ARYSubsidyRolls2.html
  Bynames Found in the 1523 Subsidy Roll for York and Ainsty  Indexed by Karen Larsdatter (Karen Harris) http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/york16/bynamesalphabetically.htm
  Thanks
Siobhan

Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Alasdair MacEogan  wrote:
> The book citation and page number.  Add the heading it is under if
> there are multiple. 
>
> May be something like:
>
> McBridin - The Surnames of Scotland by George F. Black on page 460
> under the surname MacBridan.

No.

The documentation block *is* the documentation for the submission.  It
is copied verbatim onto the Internal Letter of Intent.  It's all that
the commenters see.

Therefore, *the stuff you write in the documentation block needs to be
sufficient on its own to rule on the submission*.

The concept of documentation is actually very simple: to demonstrate
that the elements and construction of the submission fit period style.
(The implementation, like indicating doubt, interpolation, and
extrapolation, can be tricky.)

The citation (like in the quotation above) and the photocopies are not
really the documentation.  They're to keep everyone honest and to
provide the sources for evaluation, for those having the source.

> McBridin - The Surnames of Scotland by George F. Black on page 460
> under the surname MacBridan.
...
> Lisette - Withycombe, E. G. Dictionary of English Christian Names,
> 3rd edition.  Page 100 under the entry for Elizabeth show Lisette as
> a French variation that was occasionally used in England.

My invariable comment on that sort of documentation: "But what do they
*say*?"  Text liek that is pretty much useless because they don't
contribute any useful data to deciding whether the submission is
period style or no.  For all we know, the books could say that either
one was coined for a television show in 1957.  What *would* be useful
(invented data because I don't have Black):

     McBridin: Black p. 460 s.n. MacBridan dates Alexander McBridin to
     1417.

That shows that it was a surname after a given name (because I happen
to know that "Alexander" is a given name) and gives a date, so I can
be pretty confident that " McBridin" is not unreasonable as a
15th C Scottish name (assuming that "" is also not unreasonable
as a given name in a 15th C Scottish name).

There's a nice article, "How to Document a Name (to Within an Inch of
Its Life)" by Tangwystyl, but I think it was solely in KWHS
Proceedings from some years back -- I don't think it's on the Web.

Danielis Lindum Colonia
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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