[ANSTHRLD] OP question - Court Baronies and Baronies in fief

[Sir Morgan Buchanan]

I find this very interesting as a discussion, so I hope you don't take it 
that I'm being argumentative.  For a relatively undereducated herald as 
myself, I find it very educational.

So that being said, it seems that things like KC, QC, KBC and the like, 
while they aren't awards, aren't exactly like "former baron or king" either. 
The scroll texts of some of them (the champions basically) read just like 
what they say they are, a ceremonial honor, and others read more like an 
award, like the Kings or Queen's Blades.   That's not an argument for or 
against, of couse.  I would't mind seeing a general notes section in the 
online that allowed the freedom for Zodiacus to put in notes like "king from 
1/1/01 to 7/1/01 or "baroness of mumblemumble from 1/1/01 to 1/1/05."  I 
think that'd be cool.

So it could be argued that the OP is all about recording awards and honors 
as well as anything that affects the order of precedence even if that 
"anything" isn't an award or an honor.  IE, "King, queen, baron, baroness."

But I'm all for being able to FIND things.  It always annoys me when I go to 
a group's (be it shire, barony, kingdom or anything else) web page and I 
can't find a history page with a list of their past rulers...or champions... 
I love history pages.

Just my $.02.

Morgan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim McDaniel" <tmcd at panix.com>
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] OP question - Court Baronies and Baronies in fief


> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Wendel Bordelon <rwbordelon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> With the roll being a record of awards the individuals have received
>
> As I noted, there are many entries in there that are not awards:
> King's Champion, Queen's Champion, et cetera.  In the Good Old Days,
> the printed copies of the Roll of Precedence had appendix after
> appendix, and I think some appendices listed non-award things, like
> the princes, princesses, kings, and queens in order, all the kingdom
> champions, et cetera.
>
> Since it's easy to misplace records of such things, I think that the
> precedence database should continue to record them, and indeed should
> be expanded to records baronies in fief, crowns, et cetera.
>
> And I think the current maintainer of the precedence records should do
> it, not me.
>
> Danielis "*mwah*" de Lindocollino
> -- 
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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