[ANSTHRLD] Looking for help on badge conflict

Britt tierna.britt at gmail.com
Wed Jun 6 03:23:27 PDT 2007


 (Fieldless) On a cinquefoil gules, a shakefork argent.

Let me add that here's a good example why plugging the charge name
into a search isn't a good idea.  Go to the online Ordinary index
(http://oanda.sca.org/ordinary/index.html) and when you go to either
Cinquefoil under C or Foil - Cinquefoil under F it points you to
Flower - Rose, which tips you off to other charges which are likely in
conflict.  Then a quick look at Laurel precedents
(http://www.sca.org/heraldry.laurel/precedents.html) shows you a rose
and a cinquefoil get no CDs.  Then pulling up the RfS
(http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/regs.html) helps you work your way
through the things that will get you differences.

Note that just going to http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/ puts all
these links on the screen for you, so bookmark that one for easiest
reference.

Now, there is a conflict for this proposal.  Normally I'd let Viviana
do the finding, but this is one of those obscure things which gets the
most interesting discussions going, so...

>From the Ordinary:

# Tudor, House of

    * The following badge associated with this name was registered in
December of 1994 (via Laurel):
      (Fieldless) A Tudor rose.
      A Tudor rose consists of a red and a white rose, one impaling,
surmounting, quartering, or otherwise combined with the other.

This includes a rose gules charged with a rose argent.  A rose is too
complex a charge to void and therefore does not qualify for RfS
X.4.j.ii.  So the only CD is for fieldlessness.

- Teceangl
      Important non-SCA badge



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