[ANSTHRLD] more name info

Mike Wyvill wyvillmike at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 30 11:15:01 PDT 2007


Even the Academy of St. Gabriel chimed on the name Rhiannon in letter 819, 
from 1998:


Rhiannon> is not an appropriate name for a human. It has only been found
in period as the name of a somewhat magical legendary figure.

Engenulf de Vienville


>From: "Faelan Caimbeul" <faelancaimbeul at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,  Inc." 
><heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,  Inc." 
><heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] more name info
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:47:32 -0500
>
>Why is Rhiannon a weirdness? The name is that of a celtic goddess from
>millenia ago. Also, beings as the Scots and Welsh intermingled at many
>points in history, why would it be such a stretch to have a Welsh surname
>and a Scots given name? That doesn't seem like a stretch at all, they're 
>all
>from the same little island.
>
>Faelan
>
>On 3/29/07, kobrien at texas.net <kobrien at texas.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >  So basically she needs a Welsh/English surname to clear the second
> > > >  weirdness...
> > >
> > > That's how I interpret it.
> >
> > Or else she changes the given name to one that was actually used in 
>period
> > -
> > that would remove the weirdness / step from period practice for use of 
>an
> > element that is registerable ONLY because it has been ruled SCA
> > Compatible.
> >
> > For Scottish Gaelic women's names (which would fit with her byname
> > culture),
> > she could look at:
> > http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/women.shtml
> >
> > For Welsh and the basic form of her byname, I'd recommend:
> > http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh16.html
> >
> > The format of her byname is not quite correct, but it's easily fixable
> > with a
> > small change or two.  I'll need to look at my data at home to suggest
> > tweaks,
> > but I'll wait to do that until you know if she's more interested in
> > keeping
> > her given name or the rest of her name.
> >
> > (By the way, the middle element is a patronymic, indicating her father's
> > given name was Bryan, rather than a middle name as we think of it 
>today.)
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Mari
> >
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