[ANSTHRLD] blazon and conflict check
Tim McDaniel
tmcd at panix.com
Fri May 4 07:42:43 PDT 2007
On Fri, 4 May 2007, doug bell <magnus77840 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> My personal favorite is the art deco toilet bowl under Allisoun's
> precedents.
>
> Magnus
Magnus! Yay! I hope you're well.
For the list: the whole precedent is at
<http://lady.sca.org/heraldry/loar/1988/03/lar.html>:
Jean d'Eaux. Name and device. Argent, on a tombstone, a
fountain. There is no doubt that the name conflicts by sound with
that of the famous (period) legal entity John Doe (note NR15 "A
personal name conflicts with another name if it looks or sounds
enough like the other name to cause confusion" [italics ours]). In
sound the two are identical. Additionally, as many of the
commentors pointed out, this will be considered by far too many as
a bad example of offensive "toilet humour" (literally!), given the
general Society euphemism of "Shrines of Saint John of the
Waters". Even taken at face value, the device creates some
problems. Crescent has provided some convincing evidence that the
sort of tombstone used here, presumably for maximum
identifiability to modern eyes, is post-period. Also, were the
fountain to be drawn properly (on the emblazon it is a plate
charged with three barrulets wavy azure), it would not appear at
all round since the azure tends to fade into the sable. Finally,
although the submittor may not really have intended the effect of
a drawing of a modern (very Art Deco modern in black!) toilet seen
from above, this is the picture that a majority of the populace
will see, particularly when placed in context with the
name. Leaving aside the issue of whether this is offensive, it is
disruptive to the medieval atmosphere by its very modernity.
Denyel de Linccolne
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Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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