[ANSTHRLD] Suggestions needed

[Elizabeth Blackthorne]

Thanks for all the info, I will now use tabard instead of tabord, my
spell check doesn't like either of them.  I did mean the generic
college of heralds tabard.  Our groups device is fairly simple and
since the trumpeter in question is my son, I will be creating it.  I
just wanted to know "what" to create.  It makes no sense to have a
trumpeter to add more pageantry, if the trumpeter is dressed
inappropriately.  Once again, thanks...Now I know what colors of
material to buy.

Also, just so all you heralds know the event Melees at the Crossrode,
June 20-22 2008 we are talking about having a voice heraldry
competition.  How that will work is the heralds will be paired with
the fighters for the torch light tourney and the heralds will be
judged by how they announce their fighter.
If this sounds like fun let me know I am on the right track, if not,
let me know that as well.
Elizabeth Blackthorne
Seneschal of Crossrode Keep

On Nov 9, 2007 11:53 AM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Elizabeth Blackthorne <eblackthorne at gmail.com> wrote:
> > would that person be in a Heralds Tabord, or a Shire Tabord or would
> > it matter?
>
> "Tabard", not "tabord", by the way.
>
> It took me a few moments to figure out what you probably meant.  By
> "herald's tabard" you mean a tabard with the badge of the SCA College
> of Arms (green with two crossed gold trumpets) and by "shire tabard"
> you mean a tabard with the arms of the shire?  'Cause a tabard with
> the arms of a branch is a tabard and it's to be worn by a herald, so
> it's a herald's tabard too.
>
> In period, there were ensigns armorial (another different definition
> of "ensign"!) borne by and used by the English College of Arms and
> presumably by other heralds or groups of heralds, but they didn't
> appear on tabards.  Instead, tabards bore only the undifferenced arms
> of the herald's employer: front, back, both sleeves.
>
> So, for the best period re-creation, the tabard used by a herald in
> the SCA should bear nothing but the undifferenced arms of the branch
> or person for which the herald is currently working.  For a trumpeter,
> I have the impression that the arms should also be on a cloth hanging
> from the trumpet too.
>
> However, many SCA groups' arms are complex.  Also, many people work at
> various events for various groups.  Also also, groups tend to be poor
> and may not have volunteers for a tabard project, so they may not have
> enough branch-arms tabards for all the people volunteering to herald
> the lists (for example).  So it's an SCA custom (though not period)
> that tabards might also bear the crossed-trumpets badge front, back,
> and both sleeves -- they can be useful as "generics".
>
> If someone projects "Oyez" and gives a general announcement, I call
> them a herald even if they're not wearing a tabard.
>
> Daniel Lincoln
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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