[ANSTHRLD] SCA Armory for Bestowed Peerages

Bob Wade logiosophia at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 11 17:19:40 PDT 2008


Sorry, posted too quickly.
 
There have been no registrations of armory with "white belts" or "white baldrics" either (Thanks, Etienne).
 
Tostig

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com>
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] SCA Armory for Bestowed Peerages
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>, sarapenrose at yahoo.com
Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:09 PM

According to the Blazon Pattern Search Form:
 
There have been 13 registrations for Armory with either "an orle of
chain" or "an annulet of chain" since the Regalia was registered
by Laurel in 1998.  Those who have are noted in the LoAR as being a KSCA . 
There were 16 registrations before then with no such notations in the LoAR.
 
There have been no registration for armory with a "Chapeau",
"Pelican vulning itself" or "A pelican in its piety" at all
(unless it's in the most recent LoAR which brought up the question in the
first place).  In fact, the only 2 Pelicans on registered Armory are from the
1970s.
 
Tostig
 

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Kimberly Langhans <sarapenrose at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Kimberly Langhans <sarapenrose at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] [Fwd: Heraldry announcement for Commentary
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:35 PM

I was talking specifically about the bestowed peerages - I've seen lots of
crowns, but never a pelican or knight's chain.

As a Laurel, I'd never add a laurel wreath to my own device, even if I were
allowed to, because it's association with group status is just too strong
for me personally to get past.

Sara


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Darin Herndon <darin.herndon at chk.com> wrote:

> From: Darin Herndon <darin.herndon at chk.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] [Fwd:  Heraldry announcement for Commentary
> To: "'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,  Inc.'"
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:22 PM
> Sara wrote:
> > (does anyone use them, BTW? I've never seen anyone
> with a pelican or
> > knight's chain as part of their device)
> 
> It has been many years ago but I did a badge consult for an
> out of kingdom duke who ended up using a ducal coronet like
> a collar around an animal's neck.  I've never
> personally consulted on a use of the Pelican or a
> knight's chain or belt.  I would have to agree with
> Daniel that crowns and coronets are far more common. 
> Though, if the rule changed, we might see that Laurels as a
> group want to do this more than the members of the other
> orders.
> 
> Etienne



      
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