> And is there a newer LOAR that the one dated April 15, 2008? The newest released LoAR is January 2008. It's not on heraldry.sca.org yet but should be soon. Those who receive it by email have theirs. - Teceangl -- Heraldry is designed to be easily reproduced by anyone who sees the arms. - http://www.s-gabriel.org/docs/clichelist.html