[ANSTHRLD] trumpets vs Devices
Cisco Cividanes
engtrktwo at gmail.com
Sat Mar 1 19:20:07 PST 2008
Okay. I'm pretty sure I already knew most of that... however, now I
can cite sources. Thats excellent work, thank you.
Okay, let me see if I have this down. Suppose someone hires me to
herald them for a crown tournament, I guess if I want to do it right,
I should go ahead and make a full tabard with their arms on it, right?
Ivo.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Steve Rourke <steverourke at charter.net> wrote:
> >From back in December
>
> Domhnall
> Tressure Herald
>
> Shortly after having started the conversation about tabards my computer
> decided it needed to die and it took me till now to resolve the problems. I
> would like to thank everyone who participated in the discussion. Below I
> have consolidated comments made both Master Robin and Master Daniel so that
> I can make sure that it is correct reguarding the proper design and usage of
> the group heralds tabard. If anything needs to be added or corrected please
> speak up.
>
> Domhnall
> Tressure
>
> The arms can be worn only by the ruling nobles or the herald when acting as
> the herald -- never by the seneschal. (Yes, a shire has ruling nobles --
> they are the King and the Queen.) The seneschal is the legal representative
> of the branch, not its voice. A seneschal wearing the arms of the branch is
> like a lawyer pretending to be his client. It can
> also be displayed at a shire event or encampment in a central location that
> indicates the branch, rather than any individual members of it.
>
> The correct herald's tabard is the actual arms of the branch, unchanged. A
> herald should wear the arms of the branch when he is acting in an official
> heraldic capacity for the branch. That may be while doing voice heraldry
> for the branch, but it might be for a trumpeter, or for those who "process
> with the other heralds on ceremonial occasions". It's an SCA custom (though
> not period) that tabards might also bear the crossed-trumpets badge front,
> back, and both sleeves -- they can be useful as "generics".
>
> Literally, to wear quartered arms of the territorial noble and the heralds'
> badge is to say that you are the rightful heir and current holder of all
> lands, titles, ranks, privilages, etc. (or herald of the rightful heir and
> current holder) of those lands and the College of Arms itself. As if your
> baron had married the Laurel Queen of Arms and the barony and the College of
> Arms were inherited by you. They are, by their very meaning, a legal
> affront to the Laws of Arms.
>
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