[ANSTHRLD] marshaling question.

[Cisco Cividanes]

Okay.

That actually answers several questions very effectively.

Many thanks to each of you for the information.

Ivo

On 10/16/08, Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net> wrote:
> Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote :
>>  My understanding is that the arms of the HEIRS are marshaled to include
>>  the arms of both parents, not that spouses would marshal their arms once
>>  married.  Keep in mind that your arms are you.  As you are a product of
>>  both parents, you show that by marshaling their arms (assuming you
>>  inherit from both of them).  Quartered arms would tend to indicate
>>  inheritance from four grandparents to one grandchild.
>
> Marshaling can be confusing.  Especially so as I believe different heraldic
> authorities behaved slightly different.  i have by no means made an
> exhaustive study, but here is my understanding.
>
> The husband would often bear the arms of the wife (assuming she is the
> heraldic heriess) on as either a dimidiation (briefly done early only I
> believe) and impalement or an inescutcheon of pretense.  Circumstances as to
> which one I do not have handy and would have to go and read up on again.
>
> When the wife died the husband would no longer display her arms, but they
> would descend to the child and they would bear it quartered.
>
>>  Cisco Cividanes wrote:
>>  > Could four people marshal their arms (quartered, more likely than not)
>>  > to show common affiliation in single group?
>
> Sorry, I have never heard of or seen marshaling used in this manner.
> Marshaling indicates familial inheritance, not group affiliation.  That is
> what we have group ensigns for.  If you display your device you are telling
> people you are there.  It should be unique to yo so that you can look at the
> banner and say, oh that is where Donnchadh is.  Not have to look and say,
> hmm Donnchadh's group/household whatever is here.
>
> Alasdair
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