[ANSTHRLD] branch pursuivant title instruction, please
doug bell
magnus77840 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 30 10:50:40 PDT 2008
Searching the precedents back to Daud 1 I found:
[March 1993 LoAR, Middle-R] "Middle, Kingdom of the. Title for Taurine Pursuivant.
The title had been submitted as Taurean, which has not been documented as having been used in period: the OED's first citation of the word is 1656. We've substituted Taurine, which has a similiar sound, identical meaning, and is documented within our "grey area" (1613).
While most heraldic titles in period are nouns (Garter, Lyon), there are a few examples taken from war-cries (Montjoie) and adjectives (Volant). The current submission is not a problem."
The rest of the heraldic items registered were charges.
It will take quite a bit longer to search the LoARs that aren't in the precedents.
Magnus
> From: magnus77840 at hotmail.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:08:27 +0000
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] branch pursuivant title instruction, please
>
>
> The operative word is charge not heraldic term like embattled.
> The ruling I remembered was:
> [January 2004 LoAR, R-West] West, Kingdom of. Heraldic title Chequey Herald.
> "No documentation was presented and none was found that a heraldic title in period would have been drawn from field divisions or field treatments, rather than charges. Lacking such evidence, this title is not registerable."
>
> I would think this ruling would apply to embattled as well. Tomorrow I will do another LoAR dive to see what else.
>
> Magnus
>
> names of heraldic charges ( Crosslet Herald, Estoile Volant Pursuivant, Noir
> > Lyon Pursuivant)
> > and the like, to run by my nobles and seneschal. My baron
> > counter-suggested 'embattled', which is a period heraldic term, of
> > course, but isn't itself a charge. He just liked the sound of
> > 'Embattled Pursuivant'. This is the reason I asked about 'adjectives'.
> > I think I now know enough to tell him at populace tonight that it would
> > be at best an uphill battle to register that -- especially since none
> > of our armory has anything embattled in it.
> >
>
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