[ANSTHRLD] question about baronial service order award charters

[Jay Rudin]

Daniel wrote:

>But it also has
>
>     And whereas there is no provision made for automatic membership of
>     a resigned Principal into that Order, either by Letter of the Law
>     or Long Used Custom,
>
>and gave membership to him specifically.  Dated 22 March 1980.  This
>does not seem to be quite in accordance with what I rememebr Robin
>writing, that it was a custom from the earliest days.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.  These are exactly the people that I said made the ruling, at the exact time I said the ruling was made.  I wrote: 

R> This was decided in Ansteorra when  the question came before
R> the second Crown (Lloyd and Joselyn), the first Principal 
R> Herald (Aureliane), and the second precedence herald (Adelicia).
R>
R> They decided, based in part on the order constitutions (not charters, which are
R> the scrolls) that the Principal of the Order had all rights and privileges that
R> Companions have, and that Companions have the right to remain members in
R> perpetuity.  At that time, all baronial orders had the exact same wording in their
R> constitutions.

I know that the reasons I gave are not in the document (the existence of which I hadn't known), but the discussion was over half an hour long.  I don't remember all of it, and not all of it will be in the document.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

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