[ANSTHRLD] Help with conflict check and blazoning

Joe McGrew oscagne at gmail.com
Sat Jan 10 16:14:46 PST 2009


I'm helping a gentle who is getting his device together for
submission, and as this is my first time doing any consulting, I was
hoping I could get some confirmation or education from you good folk.

The device we've settled on is:
Per saltire gules and argent, a cross fourchy between the tines of
each fork a roundel counterchanged.

Emblazoned thusly:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60082910@N00/3185535705/

Particularly, should it be blazoned "argent and gules" and is "between
the tines of each fork" proper description or should the roundels'
pattern be described?

Also, we found some things that were close to this device, but we
think we've got at least two CDs for any of those, and I would love
some double-checking.

Regarding the formatting of the cross - the submitter wants a cross
Osmorog, so a "forchy" or "forchee" cross isn't exactly what is
depicted in this device, but we are going with that descriptor because
he found this:  http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2004/01/04-01lar.html

Part of which states, "The College's research also resulted in
significant doubt about whether the cross in this submission is a
correct depiction of a period cross Osmorog. We have thus chosen to
blazon this device using standard Western terms.

We considered blazoning this either as a variant of a cross moline or
of a cross fourchy. Because the ends of a cross moline are pointed and
deeply curved, and the ends of this cross are couped flat and only
slightly curved, we have reblazoned these as crosses fourchy."

BTW, that device was, "Per pale argent and gules, a cross fourchy
between the tines of each fork a roundel sable."  But we figure we
have one CD for per saltire vs. per pale and one CD for counterchanged
charges vs. sable charges.

Thanks in advance,
Gregor Mac Beathain
Herald, Gate's Edge



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