[ANSTHRLD] Fur or Color with a semy?

[Mike Wyvill]

Right. Blazoned improperly. Should be Azure ermined or, on a lozenge gules a stag trippant argent. Which is instaboing. 
 
As for being overseas, I have attempted to contact him for more than 6 months now. Knowing the difficulty I had contact my own son, and as my client is frankly becoming impatient with that process, he has asked that I add the lozenge.
EdV



 EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:56:42 -0600> From: tmcd at panix.com> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Fur or Color with a semy?> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com> wrote:> > Azure ermined or. A color or a fur?> > Yes.> > Specifically, the ermined tinctures are defined as a fur, given them> CDs for tincture versus non-ermined tinctures, but RfS VIII.2,> Armorial Contrast,> <http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/rfs.html#8.2>, specifically> notes that ermined furs are treated for contrast purposes as being of> the same category as the ermined fur's background tincture.> > 2. Armorial Contrast. - All armory must have sufficient contrast> to allow each element of the design to be clearly identifiable> at a distance.> > Each tincture used in Society armory may be depicted in a> variety of shades. Therefore, contrast is not determined by the> lightness or darkness of the tinctures on the submitted> emblazon, but by the traditional heraldic categorization of> tinctures as colors and metals. The colors are azure, gules,> purpure, sable, and vert (blue, red, purple, black, and> green). Ermined furs or field treatments on a background of one> of these tinctures are treated as colors for contrast in the> Society. The metals are argent and Or (white or silver, and> yellow or gold). Ermined furs or field treatments on a> background of one of those tinctures are treated as metals for> contrast in the Society. Furs equally divided of light and dark> pieces, such as vair, are classed with other evenly divided> elements, such as paly, per bend, or lozengy.> > a. Contrasting Tinctures - Good contrast exists between:> > i. A metal and a color;> > ii. An element equally divided of a color and a metal, and any> other element as long as identifiability is maintained;> > iii. A color and a charge, blazoned as proper, that is> predominantly light;> > iv. A metal and a charge, blazoned as proper, that is> predominantly dark.> > That means that azure ermined Or, being "predominantly dark", is> treated as a color for contrast purposes.> > > Client wants to resubmit Azure ermined or, a lozenge gules on a stag> > trippant argent> > Your blazon is confusing. In blazoning, the field is blazoned first,> then charges on the field, then charged on charges. But you say that> the lozenge is "on" the stag, but that's out of proper order as I> mentioned. Is it> > - field: blue with yellow ermine spots> charge on the field: white stag> charge on the stag: red lozenge?> > If so, there's no problem with contrast.> > - field: blue with yellow ermine spots> charge on the field: red lozenge> charge on the lozenge: white stag?> > If so, it's treated as color-on-color -- instaboing.> > > as opposed to the original Azure ermined or a stag trippant argent> > as the person with whom he conflicts is overseas.> > Speaking of confusing, please explain that. Why is it important> whether the person he conflicted with before is overseas?> > Danyell de Lyncoln> -- > Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com> _______________________________________________> Heralds mailing list> Heralds at lists.ansteorra.org> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/heralds-ansteorra.org