[ANSTHRLD] Tincture Words in Order Names

[Ron]

I'm not sure exactly where the order name changes are in the cover letter
for LoAR's but the precedent on grandfathered construction that Etienne
referred to was about order and award names only.

The precedent Etienne is looking for is the following:
>From the January 2003 LoAR

Ansteorra, Kingdom of. Award name Award of the Rising Star of Ansteorra.
This submission is an appeal of the return of Award of the Rising Star in
September 2001, which stated:

This name is being returned for lack of documentation of the construction of
the order name. No documentation was provided, and the College found none,
that an abstract descriptive such as Rising was used to modify a noun such
as Star in period order names. Barring such documentation, this name must be
returned.

Ansteorra has pointed out that Circle of the Ascending Star was registered
to the Kingdom of Ansteorra in April 1981 and that the construction used in
Award of the Rising Star of Ansteorra is, therefore, grandfathered to them.

This submission raised considerable discussion regarding how the Grandfather
Clause applies to order names. This issue is most often raised in regards to
adjectives used in order names. Some recent examples include:

[Order of the Argent Slipper] Meridies already has several order names of
the type Argent X, so this particular use is grandfathered to the Kingdom.
[Meridies, Kingdom of, 08/00, A-Meridies]

[Order of the Dragon's Bowle] The construction Dragon's X has not been
documented to period. However, the order names Order of the Dragon's Jewel
(registered August 1987) and Order of the Dragon's Pride (registered May
1988) are registered to Drachenwald. Therefore, the construction Order of
the Dragon's X is grandfathered to them so long as whatever X is falls
within the rather wide span between Jewel and Pride. A bowl (especially if
it were gold or silver) is an object which could conceivably fall into the
same category as a jewel, as being part of a dragon's horde. Therefore, this
order name is registerable. [Drachenwald, Kingdom of, 02/02, A-Drachenwald]

While use of an adjective, such as Argent or Dragon's, that does not change
from order name to order name is the most common application of the
Grandfather Clause in order names, we have also grandfathered specific
construction types. Some examples include:

[Order of the Marble Chalice] No documentation was presented and none was
found that Order of the Marble Chalice follows a pattern used for period
order names. However, Gleann Abhann has registered Order of the Onyx Chalice
(registered in September 1998) and Order of the Garnet Chalice (registered
in September 1998). Since both marble and onyx are types of stone, Order of
the Marble Chalice follows the same construction pattern as Order of the
Onyx Chalice and so is registerable via the Grandfather Clause. [Gleann
Abhann, Principality of, 12/2002, A-Meridies]

[Order of the Opal] No evidence was presented and none was found of period
order names based on gemstones. As Atlantia has registered the Order of the
Pearl, this construction is grandfathered to them. [Atlantia, Kingdom of,
12/2001, A-Atlantia]

In the first example, the construction Order of the [type of stone] Chalice
is grandfathered to Gleann Abhann. In the second example, Order of the [type
of gemstone] is grandfathered to Atlantia. Award of the Rising Star of
Ansteorra parallels Circle of the Ascending Star in a manner similar to
these examples. Given these previous registrations of grandfathering order
name constructions within a narrow construction type, this order name is
registerable to Ansteorra.

Note: Ansteorra has a letter of permission to conflict from the owner of the
household name House Rising Star. The addition of a group reference, such as
of Ansteorra, is normally transparent for conflict purposes. However,
previous precedent (including The Order of the White Scarf of Caid (Caid,
Kingdom of; Acceptances, Caid; April 1997) and Order of the Golden Swan of
Aneala (Aneala, Barony of; Acceptances, Lochac; July 1999) has ruled that a
group reference is enough difference to clear the conflict when used in
conjunction with a letter of permission to conflict.