[ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

kevinkeary at aol.com kevinkeary at aol.com
Wed Jul 22 09:09:29 PDT 2009

Then I assume a canton's (or march's or riding's) membership numbers DO 
count toward a barony's, just as they would a principality's and do a 
kingdom's? Chemin Noir's, for instance, DO count toward Northkeep's 
totals, and will until and unless it becomes a fully-independent 
branch, presumably a shire to start with?

I'm not arguing, I just want clarification. This question came up at 
our last officer's meeting, and the consensus was under the impression 
that they were counted separately. This sounds like they should count 
for themselves AND for the barony.

A barony could, in theory, be completely made up of several cantons, 
just like a kingdom could be completely made up of several 
principalities, and have the totals of ALL its cantons counted as its 
OWN membership tally to continue to qualify as a barony.

In that case, I would withdraw my earlier opinion and say the styling 
IS redundant, as Daniel denotes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 10:59 am
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, kevinkeary at aol.com wrote: 
> Sure, but IS a canton 'contained within' its barony? 
Yes. Board minutes at sca.org have various references to groups being 
a "Canton of the Barony of ...". Corpora at 
<http://www.sca.org/docs/pdf/govdocs.pdf> refers to "Canton: local 
branch reporting through a barony" (as opposed to "Shire: local branc
reporting directly to a kingdom or principality"), and in 
Administrative Sanctions, "in the case of Baronial or Canton Officers, 
the Baronage must be informed as well", and in the description, 
"Baronies and Provinces ... are alike in status and in the ability to 
administer other branches within their borders ...". There are other 
references, like 
"Canton/March/Riding - Small local group that is part of a larger 
umbrella group (Barony or Province)." 
Danielis Lindecolina 
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com 
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