[ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

Alden Drake alden_drake at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jul 22 11:07:06 PDT 2009

That is what I am familiar with as well.  As Solstice Herald, I received applications and appointed a herald in the Canton of Westgate.  A copy may have been sent to Stargate's herald too, but I don't recall interacting with that officer for appointing Westgate's herald.


From: Padraig Ruad O'Maolagain <padraig_ruad at irishbard.org>
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:47:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

Speaking from experience, having been a Canton, Shire and Regional officer:  Canton officers are appointed by the Regional, just like Baronial officers, and report to the Regional just as their Baronial conterparts do.  Canton officers must be removed by the Regional officers, not the Barony.

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--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] a couple questions
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 11:26 AM

Alden wrote:
> [Cantons] are separate and for business purposes independantly
> operated

No, they're not, unless I am badly misinformed.  Canton officers
report thru the barony, which means that baronial officers approve
applications and can remove canton officers.

> that Lord of (Barony), Baron of (Canton) would be equally Period,
> but less SCAdian.

If a canton is not a barony, "baron of ___" doesn't work.

> Not that it doesn't suggest interesting schtick. In October, if they
> have their way, the B&B of Northkeep will step down in MORNING
> court, with the Crown's choices for our new B&B being invested at
> EVENING court. In the interim, the Crown will be Baron and Baroness
> of Northkeep

I'm only familiar with English practice.  When a fief goes vacant, the
title is called "extinct".  If someone else is given that title, it's
then a new creation, with a new remainder, inheritance that does not
go past the new lord and the heirs of his body, et cetera.  When the
king of the UK inherits a fief within the kingdom, or holds a UK title
and inherits the throne, it is absorbed into the royal titles and not
used. [*] If you know of the practice anywhere else in period, please
tell us.

looks unreliable: the English monarch abjured the title of Duke of
Normandy in the Treaty of Paris of 1259.

Daniel de Lincoln
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

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