[ANSTHRLD] Pull the Files - Coronet Arms

tmcd at panix.com tmcd at panix.com
Fri Jul 24 06:45:34 PDT 2009

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Diane Rudin <serena1570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The intent of Aureliane, then-SPH, was to keep the Territorial P's
> arms as arms for the CP's.
> Robin doesn't know whether a piece of paper was ever sent in
> officially, ...

March 1987 is the first LoAR shown by www.morsulus.org with
"non scripta, non est" as a motto of the CoA.


    On this day decisions were made on many arms, the great bulk of
    which caused the Lord Laurel King-at-Arms to repeat his motto,
    which is, Semper scriptum capere, or, Always get it in writing.
    To which the Lady Banner Herald replied that the motto of the
    King-at-Arms of England is Miserere mei Deus, secundum magnam
    misericordiam tuam. [Have mercy upon me, O God, according to Thy
    great mercy.] And all agreed that it behooved a herald frequently
    and loudly to call upon the mercy of God.
    (HB, 2 Dec 70 [9], p. 1), quoted in

> I do NOT think that the Queen's arms should be discontinued, for
> purely emotional reasons that have no basis in or consideration for
> historical-use arguments at all.

Whereas I have the historical argument, and the opposite emotional
argument of "cheap plastic imitation 'cause the queen isn't good
enough to deserve the real thing".  (Cue the old Russian joke about
"I thought I saw two people walking towards me, but then I saw that
one of them was a woman".)

Danett de Linccolne
Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com

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