[ANSTHRLD] Help with conflict check please

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
Wed May 13 20:02:20 PDT 2009


I'm assisting Lorenzo, not William.  I just wanted to make sure that 
Lorenzo wouldn't be conflicting with whatever William had just sent up.  
Sorry for the confusion.

Donnchadh

Bob Wade wrote:
> Yes, but then it (William's) would conflict with "(Fieldless) A scorpion inverted argent." (Jason Thorne of Antioch, Badge, July 2008).  Other orientations also have potential conflicts (not to mention losing full style points).  Hence the divided tincture suggestion.
>  
> Tostig
>
> --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote:
>
>
> From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Help with conflict check please
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:44 PM
>
>
> Hmm, I didn't see that one.  Inverting the scorpion would clear that wouldn't it?
>
> William Malcom Ross is submitting Per bend sinister gules and sable, a scorpion tergiant argent. so that won't be a conflict either.
>
> Thanks,
> Donnchadh
>
> Bob Wade wrote:
>   
>> Yes, the default posture of a Scorpion is tergient in the SCA Glossary.
>>   Consider versus "Checky sable and vert, a scorpion displayed queue forché Or."  (Josiah Scorpius, Device, Oct 79).
>>   I see 1 CD for the field only.  Displayed and tergient are the same posture and a 2nd tail isn't worth a CD.  Pity.
>>   In redesign be aware that Al-Barran has a (fieldless) Badge with a charged Or scorpion which your design is currently clear of.
>>   Tostig
>>
>> --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Help with conflict check please
>> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:24 AM
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I am trying to conflict check:
>> Per pale gules and vert, a scorpion Or.
>>
>> Surprisingly it seems that it is clear.
>>
>> The closest I found was:
>> Oeric Lestrange <http://oanda.sca.org:80/oanda_name.cgi?p=Oeric%20Lestrange>
>>
>>     * The following device associated with this name was registered in
>>       February of 2000 (via AEthelmearc)
>>       <http://oanda.sca.org:80/oanda_date.cgi?y1=2000&m1=February&y2=2000&m2=February&kH=checked>:
>>       *Purpure <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=purpure> semy
>>       <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=semy>-de-lys argent
>>       <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=argent>, a scorpion
>>       tergiant <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=tergiant> Or
>>       <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=Or>.*
>>
>> which would have one CD for the field, and one for the strewn semy-de-lys correct?  Also, is tergiant considered the default position for a scorpion?  Anything else I missed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donnchadh
>>
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