[ANSTHRLD] Chronological list of groups

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
Fri Nov 6 08:46:05 PST 2009


As for the 'why' behind my guess, one confers nobility, the other does 
not.  My thought was that it might be analogous to how a court barony 
ranks above all the other grant orders in precedence (in Ansteorra).  
That and I didn't take the time to read through Corpora at the time. =)

Donnchadh

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
> Good info.  Doesn't change the order in this case since they're still 
> the last elevated, but if we get another barony, then it will 
> certainly make a difference.
>
> Thanks,
> Donnchadh
>
> Tim McDaniel wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair
>> <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote:
>>> I would guess that the provence comes after the baronies
>>
>> Why?  Corpora III.C <http://sca.org/docs/pdf/govdocs.pdf> says
>>
>>     C. Branch Designations
>>
>>     The designations given below are considered standard, and their
>>     use for branches of the appropriate type needs no special
>>     justification: ...
>>
>>     * Province: equivalent of barony without ceremonial representative
>>       ...
>>
>> Later:
>>
>>     2. Lateral changes in branch designation (such as between barony
>>        and province or between shire and college) ...
>>
>> and later still
>>
>>     5. Baronies and Provinces: Baronies and provinces are large
>>        branches within and subject to the administration of a kingdom
>>        (or principality, if any). They are alike in status and in the
>>        ability to administer other branches within their borders, but
>>        differ in that baronies possess a Baron and/or Baroness,
>>        ceremonial representatives appointed by the Crown, and
>>        therefore have the ability to create and administer awards,
>>        while provinces do not. ...
>>
>> I think that any province should rank among the baronies.
>>
>> Dannet de Lyncoln



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