[ANSTHRLD] Hazel leaves

Tim McDaniel tmcd at panix.com
Sat Aug 21 22:21:45 PDT 2010


Tostig / logiosophia at yahoo.com wrote:
>> Parker does not mention the outline of a leaf when using the term
>> veined/nerved
>> http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossl.htm#Leaves Even if
>> it did, having a leaf the same tincture as the field should be
>> unregisterable.

One of the few ancient precedents remaining bars it: "Umbration, or
adumbration, is known in SCA armory as 'chasing.'  'Chased means
voided but with the interior details and lines still showing as well
as the outline.'  (WvS, 22 Jan 80, p.3; in Prec III:14) The practice
was disallowed in April 1982, as part of the general ban on 'thin-line
heraldry' that also restricted voiding and fimbriation.  [BoE, 9 Mar
86, p.13]"

SCA blazonry does not blazon details like orbed, langed, armed,
pizzled, or whatever.  Veining on a leaf would, I firmly expect, not
be blazoned either, ...

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
> so it would be better to just make a leaf solid and nerve it say
> sable... the idea here is to actually bring out the detail of the
> leaf itself... in this example hazel leaves, which depending on the
> details could be mistaken for bay leaves... or other types...

though I suppose it might affect the blazon as mentioned here, but no
difference would be granted between hazel leaves and other leaves that
are similar in outline.

> also, in the triqueta also know as the triquetra, it is three
> interlocking objects, in the style of the trinity knot.

So the adumbrated leaves would have been interlocking too?
I suspect that you can do interlocking / interlacing / whatknot
only on objects that have sizeable (registerable) holes like
annulets.

Dankyn Lincoln
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Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com



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