[ANSTHRLD] saltorel gules conjoined in the base (was {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - another device attempt)

[Joshua Brandl]

Go ahead and scratch the request on the annulet and saltire... apparently it was more commonly used that i knew... 
it is known as the Southwark Cross, is commemorative of the martyrdom of St. 
George and was used as a device by the Bridge Estates Committee
also has been referred to as the Bridge house mark. would not be passable.

Now as to the Other two.

Links:
http://http://www.civicheraldry.co.uk/lcc.html#southwark%20bc
http://www.queensroyalsurreys.org.uk/colours/c35.html


> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:07:33 -0700
> From: crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] saltorel gules conjoined in the base (was {TH}orkell	{o, }lf_ss - another device attempt)
> 
> From what I can find, the Borough of SOUTHWARK was awarded the arms in 1905. 
> 
> Crandall, Olde Phart 
> 
> "In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth Galbraith
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net>
> > Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] saltorel gules conjoined in the base (was {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss - another device attempt)
> > To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 3:27 PM
> > I think nevermind.  I may have
> > answered my own question.  If you go to http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglosss.htm#Saltire
> > and scroll down a little.  On the right side you will
> > see a coat of arms fro Borough of SOUTHWARK.  http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/images/m518a.gif
> > 
> > If this is the source then I will say it does not appear to
> > be enough to document the use of the design in period. 
> > Parker published his book in the late 1800s.  You would
> > likely need to try for a more period source for the motif.
> > 
> > Alasdair
> > 
> > >  -------Original Message-------
> > >  From: Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net>
> > >  To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,
> > Inc. <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > >  Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss -
> > another device attempt
> > >  Sent: 31 Aug '10 13:54
> > >  
> > >  Can you provide a link or source to look at
> > where this was seen?  The connecting line on the bottom of
> > the saltorel seems out of place.  The only examples I can
> > find are an X.
> > >  
> > 
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