[ANSTHRLD] Conflict checking, Þorkell Olfúss, Device blazon Included

[Joshua Brandl]

The charges, ordinaries and most of the heraldry information i have gathered from the Bingham Collection, a pictorial dictionary of Medieval Heraldry, Armour, Arms, Equipment, Clothing, and Myths.
The base image for saltire nebuly is on the page available via the link below. the other charges are on their respective pages.

http://heraldry-armoury-and-more.com/picture_library/NNN.htm

> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:29:51 -0700
> From: logiosophia at yahoo.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict checking, Þorkell Olfúss, Device blazon Included
> 
> --- On Sun, 8/22/10, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict checking, Þorkell Olfúss, Device blazon Included
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 4:05 PM
> 
> 
> 
> Name: 
> Þorkell Olfúss  (THOAR-kehl   Ohl fauss)  Late 11th early 12th century Nord 
> According to 'Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók', the byname should be ǫlfúss (desirous of beer) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html  Bynames were not capitalized in Norse.  Since both the personal name and the byname came form the same source, there should be no temporal or mixed language problems.  No conflicts observed for Þorkell ǫlfúss.
> 
> Device:
> Sable, on a saltire argent nubuly, a florid sable charged with mullet of 8 points argent pierced
> 
> Link to Device Graphic ( for blazon check ):
> http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/aednial/Jbrandldevattpt4.gif
> First, there are several problems with identifiability.  The only charge I could identify without benefit of the provided emblazon was the pierced mullet of eight points.
>    The saltire should only be 1/5 to 1/3 the visual weight of the field [Closer to 1/5 if there are other charges between it; closer to 1/3 if there are either charges on it and/or drawn with a complex line].  The saltire in your emblazon looks slightly over 1/2.
>    Identifiability of the saltire is lessened even more by the rendering of the complex line.  To me it looks like potenty with rounded edges.  Nebuly should look like round nobs.  An example of nebuly from Parker is at http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/images/m423a.gif  
>   I have been unable to locate a "florid" in available heraldic dictionaries.  Where did you find a definition/rendering ofi it?
>  
> Second, the armory violates the Rules for Submission.  http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/rfs.html  RfS VIII.1c(ii) states:
> "ii. Layer Limit - Designs may not be excessively layered.
> "All charges should be placed either directly on the field or entirely on other charges that lie on the field."
> The mullet is entirely on the "florid", but the florid does not lie on the field.  It also lies entirely on another charge -- the saltire.
>  
> 
> Comments and error information appreciated... even if its syntax, its a learning process.
> 
> Jbrandl10
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