[ANSTHRLD] Conflict checking, {TH}orkell Olfúss, Device blazon Included

[Bob Wade]

--- On Mon, 8/23/10, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:


From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict checking, {TH}orkell Olfúss, Device blazon Included
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 8:55 AM


On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The charges, ordinaries and most of the heraldry information i have
> gathered from the Bingham Collection, a pictorial dictionary of
> Medieval Heraldry, Armour, Arms, Equipment, Clothing, and Myths.
> The base image for saltire nebuly is on the page available via the
> link below. the other charges are on their respective pages.
> 
> http://heraldry-armoury-and-more.com/picture_library/NNN.htm

Thank you for pointing out the source.

Yes, thank you for the source.  Will look forward to perusing it.

....
If you want a Victorian source, Google for
    "james parker" heraldry
to get to <http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/>  Lots more info,
lots more examples, still with the fussy distinctions, not anywhere
near as much nonsense.  Still not a great guide for SCA purposes,
but it's good for looking up if someone uses a weird heraldic term.

As for nebuly: I think I once ran across illustrations of period
nebuly showing various shapes, including even flatter and bi-lobed
ones than this ... but since I don't have a source or anything useful,
that's not data.  For most of the depictions, I'd suggest fewer and
larger/wider nebules.  But the saltire shown here *is* really too
large.  Seeing it, and especially the original illo of the device
design, I have a real foreground-background problem: I don't see
"Argent, a saltire nebuly sable", but rather "Sable, four odd
peripheral charges of some sort argent".

Danielis de Lindecolina
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
 
To be honest, Parker has an illusttration of a saltire with a complex line that's just as bad.
 
Tostig