[ANSTHRLD] saltorel gules conjoined in the base (was {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - another device attempt)

[Crandall]

>From what I can find, the Borough of SOUTHWARK was awarded the arms in 1905. 

Crandall, Olde Phart 

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--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net> wrote:

> From: Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] saltorel gules conjoined in the base (was {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss - another device attempt)
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 3:27 PM
> I think nevermind.  I may have
> answered my own question.  If you go to http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglosss.htm#Saltire
> and scroll down a little.  On the right side you will
> see a coat of arms fro Borough of SOUTHWARK.  http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/images/m518a.gif
> 
> If this is the source then I will say it does not appear to
> be enough to document the use of the design in period. 
> Parker published his book in the late 1800s.  You would
> likely need to try for a more period source for the motif.
> 
> Alasdair
> 
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net>
> >  To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,
> Inc. <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >  Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss -
> another device attempt
> >  Sent: 31 Aug '10 13:54
> >  
> >  Can you provide a link or source to look at
> where this was seen?  The connecting line on the bottom of
> the saltorel seems out of place.  The only examples I can
> find are an X.
> >  
> 
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