[ANSTHRLD] "Busy" WAS {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - another device attempt

[Joshua Brandl]

if i am reading this correctly.. i DO have enough CDs to get this device passed?   i could fairly easily widen the cross. would i have to shrink the mullets?

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:30:22 -0700
> From: logiosophia at yahoo.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] "Busy" WAS {TH}orkell {o,	}lf_ss - another device attempt
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> IMO there is nothing "busy" in the third emblazon (Quarterly, ...).  It has only two tinctures, two charge groups.  Each charge group contains a single charge type.  The field division and charge classes were frequently found in period heraldry.  The charges groups are in a common arrangement for the field division.  The cross shown is rendered in its standard form (although drawn about half the width of what would be most identfiable).  The mullet shown is a variant of the most common type (five points), but the eight-point variation used was common enough to be known throughout Europe.
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> The closest SCA registered armory I've found were:
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> "Quarterly vert and argent, a cross botonny throughout counterchanged Or and sable between four mullets of eight points counterchanged." (Barbara ni Sheaghdha of Tir Chonall, Device, June 1995) [2+ CD's clear for changes to the field, tincture of the cross and type of the cross]
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> "Quarterly sable and argent, a cross crosslet fitchy between four fleurs-de-lys counterchanged." (Ingelric Kelvin, Device, April 1999) [Both 2 CD's clear for changes to the type of secondaries and the type of cross and X2 clear for change of cross class]
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> Tostig
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> --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss - another device attempt
> To: "Ansteorran Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 6:47 PM
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> This was actually the first one i have done, i do like it.. however i was told it was. "too busy".   the chevrons idea came from one from the "glossary of terms used in heraldry" by glough and parker 1966 edition. the original blazon was  Azure, a chevron gules pierced by a bend ermine. i can provide page numbers if needed
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> > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:29:50 -0700
> > From: logiosophia at yahoo.com
> > To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> > Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss - another device attempt
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> > IMO the third emblazon (Quarterly sable and argent, a cross between four mullets of eight points pierced counterchanged) has the only period feel.  It also seems clear.
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> > To see period Scandinavian concepts of good armory try looking at the articles and  Heraldic Roll found at St Gabriel http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/scandinavian.shtml  Of special note is the article on "Personal Display for Viking Age Personae: A Primer for Use in the SCA" by Thora Sharptooth.  There are other collections on period Heraldry throughout Europe at St Gabriels http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/ and the site maintained privately by Coblaith (Sable Crane) http://coblaith.net/Heraldry/Armorials/
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> > Tostig
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> > --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > From: Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o,}lf_ss - another device attempt
> > To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:51 PM
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> > Ok three more device attempts, i like them in the order presented, First best, second, third.
> > please double check my blazon, i have registered examples in mundane heraldry. please and thank you
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> > Jbrandl10
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> > First Device Blazon:
> > Argent a chevron sable issuing an ermine spot tail fesspoint, pierced twice by a chevron inverted gules issuing an ermine spot tail fesspoint.
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> > First Device Image:
> > http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/aednial/chevronsablepiercedbychevrongules.gif
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> > Second Device Blazon:
> > Argent, an annulet sable ensigned with a cross, interlaced by a saltorel gules conjoined in the base
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> > Second Device Image:
> > http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/aednial/AnnuletInterlaced.gif
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> > Third Device Blazon:
> > Quarterly sable and argent between four mullets of eight points pierced a cross counterchanged
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> > Third Device Image:
> > http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/aednial/Quarterly.gif
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