[ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - chevron braced with one inverted, both ensigned

[Joshua Brandl]

my ideas came as such... 
 the glough and parker manual. i too had found the reference to 1255, however i did not have access to the book to look it up.
taking the idea that during my rough period ( well within the SCA timeframe) i presumed that any single plane ordinary can be pierced in such a manner.
i then took 2 chevrons and peirced them.  then looking at line treatments i found an example ( Argent, a fesse dancetty with a cross formy issuing in chief gules--Arms
 ascribed to Reginald FITZ-JOCELYN, Bp. of Bath and Wells, 1191.)  rationalizing that dancetty was similar enough to a single chevron i blazoned the chevron as issuing.  now, a ermine spot can be used singularly as a charge, and the standard ermine spot form has 3 dots with a bushy looking "tail" not knowing how else to specify this to heralds emblazoning this for the first time that the dots were on top i assumed that the spot had a "head" and "tail" the tail is pointing toward the fesspoint essentially giving the chevron a sharper point and the 3 dots characteristic of an ermine spot. 


> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:14:59 -0500
> From: tmcd at panix.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - chevron braced with one inverted, both ensigned
> 
> I'd like to take them separately, as they are unrelated.
> 
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > First Device Image:
> > Argent a chevron sable issuing an ermine spot tail fesspoint,
> > pierced twice by a chevron inverted gules issuing an ermine spot tail
> > fesspoint.
> > http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll227/aednial/chevronsablepiercedbychevrongules.gif
> ...
> >
> > the chevrons idea came from one from the "glossary of terms used in
> > heraldry" by glough and parker 1966 edition. the original blazon was
> > Azure, a chevron gules pierced by a bend ermine. i can provide page
> > numbers if needed
> 
> <http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossp.htm#Pierced>
> "A singular, and perhaps single, instance of an ordinary piercing or
> perforating another is:--
>      Or, chevron gules pierced with[or perforated by] a bend
>      ermine[otherwise a bend ermine perforating a chevron
>      gules]--HODSTOKE, or HADSTOCK, Suffolk."
> 
> I had never heard of that sort of piercing before.  Papworth's
> Ordinary has it on p. 376, left column, third from the top, this with
> abbrev. expanded:
> 
>     Or a chevron gules pierced by a bend ermine.  Hadstock,
>     Suffolk.  Haystacke.  Hodstoke, V.
> 
>     Or a chevron gules and a bend ermine.  Hadstock.
> 
> suggesting that the first might be an artistic variant of the second.
> It defines source "V" as Glover's Ordinary.  Anglo-Norman Armory II
> dates the roll to c. 1255, but oddly enough, I can't find it in there,
> whether under blazon or by that surname (Hod*).  And the ordinary is
> not in Brault's Aspilogia III (the Rolls of Arms of Edward I, but 1255
> is too early for him, I suppose).
> 
> The proposal has a chevron braced with a chevron inverted, which had
> been registered before though it's not common.
> 
> It has a very unusual piercing.  We have one example above, but
> Papworth's may have erred (given that it's not in ANA2), and
> Papworth's example is of two differing ordinaries, both of which are
> in their common orientations.
> 
> It has a treatment of the tips of the chevron that I've never seen
> before and don't know how to blazon.  I find "ensigned" in Parker for
> a treatment of the tip of a chevron, and registered without comment in
> 
>      1/05: Stephan of Churchton. Device. Azure, a chevron ensigned with
>      a Latin cross between three annulets engrailed on the outer edge
>      Or.
> 
> But there were other Latin crosses ensigned (mostly on horseshoes) and
> fleurs-de-lys.  These are not "ermine spot tails", because they are
> not tails.  They are the three dots used on top of one of the common
> depictions of an ermine spot (the part that isn't the tail), but
> <http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglosse.htm#Ermine> shows
> three other depictions, none of which have separate dots, and I've
> seen other different ones, like one that's a box with a wiggly tail.
> So I don't see how you can blazon it as part of an ermine spot.  You
> could try to blazon it with something involving roundels, but they
> would be much larger and further away.
> 
> So I don't see how to blazon it.  An unblazonable design is
> unregisterable, so if nobody else sees a way, it would have to be
> returned.  If you could blazon it (or if you substituted a possibly
> known variant such as a cross or fleur-de-lys), it still has
> significant changes from the period design that you found.
> 
> Denyel de Lyncoln
> -- 
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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