[ANSTHRLD] Acceptable sources and invented names

[Crandall]

Searching for the source used on this page: 
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mabry/spelling.html 
Maybe the genealogist for that site can give you sources. 
Donald E. Collins
3377 Mill Vista Road, Apt. #3207
Highlands Ranch, Colorado 80129
dcollins at mabryfamily.org


--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Acceptable sources and invented names
> To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:50 PM
> Unfortunately, your R&W source
> does not document what the submitter wants.  <Mably>
> is not <Mabry>.
>  
> The submitter can use whatever source they want to in a
> submission.  RfS II.3 states, in part, "No name will be
> disqualified based solely on its source."  That does not
> mean any source is a good source -- good sources have dates
> and source material for the exact spelling.  It also does
> not mean that the CoH or CoA cannot look elswhere to seek
> other documentation to support (or discredited) what is
> submitted.
>  
> If a Oxford Historical Society publication has dated
> instances of <Mabry> used as a (given?) name and
> cittes the source(s), fantastic.  Note, however, that is
> _documenting_ the name, not _inventing_ it.
>  
> Invented names are ones not found (yet) in source material,
> but which seem reasonable because they follow a naming
> _pattern_ found in source material.  At least three
> examples are needed to indicate a pattern.  More are even
> better.  If a Oxford Historical Society publication shows
> <Mabry> follows "the rules for name formation from a
> linguistic tradition compatible with the domain of the
> Society and the name elements used" (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/rfs.html#2.3),
> fantastic. 
> 
> If not, then "no changes allowed" means no registration
> granted if other documentation cannot be found during the
> commentary process to support it.
>  
> Tostig
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Amanda Smith <kyrogue at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Amanda Smith <kyrogue at gmail.com>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Acceptable sources and invented names
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 7:22 PM
> 
> 
> I have a consult asking about two different things.  The
> first is that she
> really insists on using the Oxford Historical Society
> publications as her
> source even though I have provided a solid source.  She is
> extremely adamant
> about using this source so I am wondering if they are an
> acceptable source?
> 
> Second thing is that she wishes to use the name Mabry. 
> I've found
> documentation for Mably:
> 
> Mably is documented from Feminine Given Names in "A
> Dictionary of English
> Surnames" by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) at
> http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Mabel 
> It is listed
> as sn. Mabel with two instances of Mably in 1279 and 1450.
> 
> but the submitter wishes to use the invented names clause
> to submit Mabry.
> She is also extremely adamant about using this spelling and
> will accept no
> alternatives.  Is this an acceptable use of invented
> names, OR is there
> another place I can look for Mabry as a name?
> 
> 
> Thank you for any help you can give,
> Lady Alys Langton
> Seawinds Herald
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