[ANSTHRLD] Conflicting with a non player.

Joseph Percer jpercer at gmail.com
Fri Nov 12 13:08:39 PST 2010


I get the feeling that in order for that to be binding, it needs to be
written somewhere in that fashion... Only mention I see
of anything like that is just the notation in the Admin handbook that
"registered items remain registered" and
that is also in Corpora. Both of those documents can be amended.

Interestingly - neither the Admin Handbook or Corpora make provisions
for the BoD to "unregister" items without
permission from the registrant or heir.

Jayme

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Ronald Blackman <eirik at hot.rr.com> wrote:
> I've heard it said that the registration of arms in the SCA is a contract
> between the individual and the Corporation to protect the registered arms.
> Don't know if that is correct or not, but if so, then you get into the whole
> confusing world of contract law.
>
> Eirik Halfdanarson
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heralds-bounces+eirik=hot.rr.com at lists.ansteorra.org
>> [mailto:heralds-bounces+eirik=hot.rr.com at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf
>> Of Joseph Percer
>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 2:32 PM
>> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
>> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflicting with a non player.
>>
>> I kinda gotta agree with Master Francois, that I don't feel that this
>> is necessarily "property" --
>>
>> Your Registration fee covers the following:
>>
>> 8 dollars you give to the local: He keeps 1$ for the local group's
>> processing (mailing, any additional tweaks or copies)
>> 7 dollars to Kingdom, which scoops 4$ off the top and keeps that for
>> processing
>> (including mailing the packet, printing any needed documentation or
>> copies of forms, printing out
>> any letters of intent (though we've now gone to OSCAR),
>> 3 Dollars to Laurel for their processing, which includes making the
>> commentary, distributing the loar
>> and maintaining the files and supporting archival operations...
>>
>> I'm sure that Francois can expound on profit/loss but the money is
>> really nothing more (nor do I believe
>> anybody can reasonably characterize it as such) than a processing fee.
>>
>> Jayme
>> Bordure
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Wendel Bordelon <rwbordelon at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Ok,  I am bored at work... which often means trouble....
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Kevinkeary <kevinkeary at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> ... Not to mention my original statement about the moral / ethical
>> >> implications of taking someone's duly-purchased property back by
>> fiat
>> >> because you don't feel they're using it (or CAN use it) enough.
>> >>
>> >
>> >  duly-purchased property?
>> >
>> > They paid a fee to register a name and/or armory.  If it was accepted
>> it was
>> > registered and recorded in the big book of blazons.
>> >
>> > The CoA will provide some measure of protection against presumption
>> of
>> > implied relationship between the registered armory and any future
>> > registrations (in accordance with the current RfS). Mistakes do
>> sometimes
>> > happen and direct conflict do get registered.  They will then both
>> reside in
>> > the big book of blazon because once registered always registered
>> (unless
>> > released by the owner or the Board takes action).
>> >
>> > Other than moral arguments about registered armory being protected
>> there is
>> > nothing Laurel Sovereign of Arms can do if someone wanted to display
>> any bit
>> > of registered armory with a single difference, or even no difference.
>> >
>> > --Francois, heraldic heretic
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