[ANSTHRLD] Who to Protect? A 1.0 and ABPS version

[karadelph at aol.com]

Hear, hear some of us are only partially inactive we watch the discussions we make it to what events we can and sometimes there may be years in between. And sometimes we may have passed on but just because we can't or don't play doesn't mean our armory should be up for grabs. We worked hard to get it passed, it means something very personal to us and it has meaning for others who knew/know us.
Really you think you can fill a previous SCAions footsteps, because there will be someone out there who will recognize it and hold you to the potential that they set or the history good or bad that goes with it. Good luck to the newbie who chooses to resubmit/ take over Sir Ricardo de Pisa (GRHS) or Sir Jonathan McNaughton or Master Pippin! 
Life takes us many places it just may take us awhile to come back home. HLS Delphina Rowel Pursivant
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From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson at gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:48:32 
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Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Who to Protect? A 1.0 and ABPS version

The only thing I have to add is that just because someone is inactive
now, doesn't mean they won't show up unpredictably, unless they are
dead.

What's the definition of inactive?  1 year, 5, 10?  I haven't been
playing THAT long, and I've heard of folks coming back after absences
of that long or longer.  Maybe for one event, maybe their life
rearranges itself so that they suddenly have the time to play like
they used to.

Ioannes

2010/11/16 Kazimierz Złowieszczy <kazoflr at gmail.com>:
> Well said.
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Discussions periodically arise on lists such as this concerning a number of
>> hot button issues.  Lately [ANSTHRLD] has seen a resurgence of one of them
>> ... should we continue to protect heraldic registrations of people who are
>> no longer active in the SCA?
>>
>> IMO we have not reached a need for The Next Modest Proposal.  As others
>> have pointed out, there's still plenty of good armory available waiting for
>> the right person to discover that one of them illustrates how they perceive
>> themselves.  Nonetheless, a discussion of what may need to be done in the
>> future can be a good thing.
>>
>> The original Modest Proposal had the various Kingdoms submit lists of what
>> non-Society armory each felt was important to protect.  I expect The Next
>> Modest Proposal to do the same.  If so, what standards should be used to see
>> if someone who is deceased, inactive, or a non-member is "important enough
>> to protect?"
>>
>> A 1.0 answer: IMO anyone who is on an OP deserves the privelege of the
>> Society's full protection.
>>
>> ABPS Version ...
>>
>> A couple of decades ago I was visiting a Kingdom I used to live in.  At the
>> Event a Laurel came up to thank me for convincing him that period bardic
>> pieces could be entertaining.  But the real credit belonged to someone else.
>>
>> Last year people were posting lists of the 3 people who most influenced how
>> they participate in the SCA.  One of mine was a person from the Branch I
>> lived in when I joined the Society.  He replaced one of the three reasons I
>> joined (Wine, women, and a forum to prove my D&D characters could physically
>> do the things I said they were doing) with a desire for research.  Bill was
>> a librarian who had a vision of compiling a union bibliography of all the
>> books on the Middle Ages in the two public library systems and three major
>> universities there.  He became Chronicler so he had a forum to publish it.
>> In an era when newsletters were done on mimeograph machines, his ran 50
>> pages a month.  By the end of his tenure he had printed only the general
>> surveys written in English (Plus a Swahili tanslation of Machiavelli's The
>> Prince he snuck in).  He went inactive a few years later with boxes of
>> handwritten index cards left unpublished.  That was 30 years
>>  ago.  Because his job kept him from travelling to Events, I'm probably one
>> of only a handful who remember him.  Through that one bard alone, however,
>> he enriched the Society lives of hundreds.
>>
>> I'd heard the words before in Court, but they first became meaningful to me
>> when I saw Guillermo receive his AoA.  "... through diverse efforts to
>> enrich Our Realm ... we grant the Right and Dignity of Arms..."
>>
>> I don't know what most of them are, but every entry in an OP indicates a
>> story about someone who influenced others.  Alive or not, active or not,
>> members or not, we are all enriched by each entry through their recipient's
>> effect on others.  They are all important.  IMO they have all earned the
>> privelege of the Society's full protection of their Armory and Names.
>>
>> Tostig
>>
>>
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