[ANSTHRLD] A Spurtle

Bob Wade logiosophia at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 15 15:46:51 PDT 2010


ERRATA:  Apparently the Oct 1986 registration date I cited from the Armory Description Search Form was a reblazon not noted in the LoAR.
 
The original registration was:
 
Madrone Culinary Guild. Gules, a spurtle inverted, a knife, and a spoon inverted Or. 
Note: From now on groups that are not personal households can register devices.

(LoAR, April 1980).

--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] A Spurtle
To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 5:07 PM


--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] A Spurtle
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 4:49 PM


On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anybody have any insight on whether this is going to require a
> documentation of its use in period heraldry to register or no?

Oh, I can give that insight.  Odds are you don't need that.

See the RfS, specifically RfS VII.3:

    3. Period Artifacts. - Artifacts that were known in the period and
    domain of the Society may be registered in armory, provided they
    are depicted in their period forms.

    A pen, for instance, must be depicted as a quill pen or other
    period form, not a fountain pen. A wheel must be depicted as a
    wagon wheel, not a rubber tire from an automobile.

    The use of artifacts that, though not found in period armory,
    follow a pattern of charges found in period armory, will not be
    considered a step from period practice. For instance, there are so
    many examples of tools used by European craftsmen being used as
    charges in period armory, that any tool documented as in use in
    Europe prior to 1600 is generally acceptable without being a step
    from period practice. Artifacts that do not follow a pattern of
    charges found in period armory, such as an aeolipile, will be
    considered a step from period practice.

So if you can document period depictions in such a way that it's
blazonable (if you see a picture and know of the item, you'll say
"spurtle") and reproducable (to oversimplify, if you see "spurtle" in
a blazon, you'll draw something like someone else's notion of
"spurtle"), then it will not require documentation of its use in
period heraldry.

Danihel de Lindo Colonia
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
The article Jayme cited gives me the impression the shape may have changed over time.  Since there's a defining instance -- "Gules, in fess a spurtle, a dagger, and a spoon palewise Or." (Madrone Culinary Guild, Device, October 1986) [Aside: Is that either slot machine heraldry or a violation of the sword and dagger rule?] -- the spurtle in that emblazon should be viable without further research, shouldn't it?. 
 
You have that submission on CD, don't you?


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