[ANSTHRLD] Device help: Argent within a border azure...

Jay Rudin rudin at peoplepc.com
Fri Oct 15 10:16:41 PDT 2010


I suspect that it wouldn't be too hard to get Anne-Louise's permission to conflict.  She doesn't play any more, but she does stay in touch.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin


-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Oct 15, 2010 12:11 PM
>To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Device help: Argent within a border azure...
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>Given the size of the liuon, there may be a conflict versus "Argent, a castle triple-towered azure, portalled, crenellated, and pennanted gules, within a bordure azure semy of oak leaves Or." (Anne Louise of Bluecastle, Device, August 1985 [via Ansteorra]).
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>IMO the lion is a maintained charge rather than a sustained one, so the only CD I see is for the change to type and tincture of the tertiary charge group on the bordure.
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>If there was a demi-lion issuant from the tower instead, it could be drawn large enough to be considered a co-primary.
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>Tostig
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>--- On Fri, 10/15/10, doug bell <magnus77840 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>From: doug bell <magnus77840 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Device help: Argent within a border azure...
>To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
>Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 11:45 AM
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>Try this blazon:
>"Argent, a lion passant guardant sable atop a tower within a bordure azure semy-de-lys argent."
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>Magnus
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>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:29:44 -0700
>> From: dmage121 at yahoo.com
>> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Device help: Argent within a border azure...
>> 
>> I have a client who wishes the following.
>> 
>> "Argent, within a bordure azure semy-de-lys argent, a lion passant gardant sable 
>> on a tower azure"
>> Here is the link to the image 
>> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs299.snc4/41269_1482917445574_1612997228_1155977_1947881_n.jpg
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>> I think is is clear of conflict, but I wanted to check the lion and the bordure 
>> semy-de-lys. I was not sure if those were protected, restricted, etc.
>> 
>> Robert of Coleford
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