[ANSTHRLD] Heralds Digest, Vol 60, Issue 7

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I wish you would have said something about your books at war when you where in Herald's Point. Would have taken all of the and give a hand full of cash.

Aron

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On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 PM, heralds-request at lists.ansteorra.org wrote:

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>   1. Re: books looking for homes (Lisa Theriot)
>   2. Re: books looking for homes (Joseph Percer)
>   3. Heraldic Libraries (Joseph Percer)
>   4. Re: books looking for homes (doug bell)
>   5. Re: Heraldic Libraries (Castellana Donea)
>   6. April Herald's Meeting (Joseph Percer)
>   7. Re: books looking for homes (Lisa Theriot)
>   8. more books (Lisa Theriot)
>   9. Re: more books (HerrDetlef)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 00:15:24 -0500
> From: "Lisa Theriot" <lisatheriot at ravenboymusic.com>
> To: <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] books looking for homes
> Message-ID: <A8759DE31D6443C18E6A712F20CBB832 at Theriot1>
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> [Cool, bidding war (Some of us have already responded about specific
> books privately).]
> 
> Indeed.  Since I am trying to get what I can for someone who can really
> use the funds, I am by no means above such tactics.
> 
> So far, the most interest seems to be in the Rymut.  For inquiring
> minds, this is a loose-leaf copy of a library volume.  It seems to be
> complete: 72 pages of what I'm sure are fabulous essays on naming
> practices if you read Polish, followed by alphabetized (dated) names.
> Total, 316 pages.  A bonus copy of Walraven's article based on this book
> is included as an appendix.
> 
> Happy as I would be if you would all bid against each other, I point out
> that since this has already been copied to 2-sided loose leaf, the hard
> work is done.  It would be a simple matter for someone to take the pages
> out of their protective sleeves and run 2-sided to 2-sided copies, and
> everyone who wants one can have it.  Just sayin', form a pact.  The
> Hoffman (Polish Surnames, in English) is an actual book, so it will have
> to go to just one owner.
> 
> Andrewe, re: Welsh sources...  Morgan & Morgan is a great source, but it
> is a little hard to use until you get used to it (and learn to tell what
> is an actual date and what is a page citation).  Gruffudd is fraught
> with peril; only the actual dated citations are reliable.  (Gruffudd was
> depressed by how few names he found, and he started back forming them
> from placenames, often incorrectly.) It is name-your-baby easy to use,
> though.  Davies is fun, but has few dates.  The Bartrum and Bromwich
> works are for people who want to do serious research, not people looking
> for an easy name source.
> 
> Tostig has $20 down on Bahlow/Gentry.  If anybody wants to put a bid in
> via email so I don't let your fave go to someone else, feel free.
> 
> 
> I'll be there at Stargate for morning court.  After court, I'll have the
> books available for inspection, bidding, pleading, and dealing.
> 
> 
> Adelaide
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 00:31:17 -0500
> From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,    Inc."
>    <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] books looking for homes
> Message-ID: <BANLkTim5=bDNLZCBx_OtHp5ypGPo_TuS_g at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Getting into a bidding war is beyond my capacity.  I will simply ask that
> whoever ends up with the Rymut seriously considers donating a Xerox copy for
> the Bordure library, as it is lacking in eastern European sources.
> 
> I can bum seawinds' copy of Morgan & Morgan if it came down to it.
> 
> Mistress Adelaide, the heralds meeting will likely take place around 4 pm if
> you would like to use some of that time to increase your audience.
> 
> Andrewe.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 00:39:05 -0500
> From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
> To: "Heralds List,    Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc."
>    <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Libraries
> Message-ID: <BANLkTintkAx81jvKNhg3eSH7iUQUE5Joeg at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Greetings!
> 
> With the discussion out there concerning books I'd like to point out to any
> heralds not aware that the kingdom does have a couple library bins of name
> and armory books that go with the Bordure and Armillary offices. If you ever
> have a research request please do not hesitate to contact me. (I can't speak
> for Armillary ). If Bordure's library doesn't have a source, I can check
> Seawinds' rather sizeable collection. Please note that it may take me a
> little time to do the research, but I wanted people to know I'm willing to
> do this if needed.
> 
> Andrewe
> Bordure
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:04:18 +0000
> From: doug bell <magnus77840 at hotmail.com>
> To: <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] books looking for homes
> Message-ID: <SNT106-W44C767D7F4A32A63E70554F0A20 at phx.gbl>
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> 
> A note of caution.
> 
> One would hope the photocopied items you are selling for a profit with bidding
> are the ones no longer under copyright.  I wouldn't be concerned
> about the SCA published ones but others might be an issue.  Original books
> aren't a problem.
> 
> Magnus
> 
> 
>> [Cool, bidding war (Some of us have already responded about specific
>> books privately).]
>> 
>> Indeed.  Since I am trying to get what I can for someone who can really
>> use the funds, I am by no means above such tactics.
> 
>                         
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 05:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Castellana Donea <castellana.donea at yahoo.com>
> To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List"
>    <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Libraries
> Message-ID: <212692.35995.qm at web46307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Of course I am also willing to look through the armillary library.? Please feel free to contact me with any questions.? The armillary libray's main purpose is travel so most of what I have are print out of the Academy of St. Gabriel, which is all available on their website.? 
> ?
> Armillary
> 
> YIS,
> 
> Lady Castellana de Andalusia
> known as Castellana Donea
> (Kass-tae-yanna)
> Protogee' to Syr Burke Kyriell MacDonald
> Rom Bara of House Patrin Or
> Wiensenfeuer's Deputy Herald
> Kingdom Armillary Pursuvant
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/5/11, Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Libraries
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 5:39 AM
> 
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> With the discussion out there concerning books I'd like to point out to any
> heralds not aware that the kingdom does have a couple library bins of name
> and armory books that go with the Bordure and Armillary offices. If you ever
> have a research request please do not hesitate to contact me. (I can't speak
> for Armillary ). If Bordure's library doesn't have a source, I can check
> Seawinds' rather sizeable collection. Please note that it may take me a
> little time to do the research, but I wanted people to know I'm willing to
> do this if needed.
> 
> Andrewe
> Bordure
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:41:41 -0500
> From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,    Inc."
>    <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>,    "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
>    <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] April Herald's Meeting
> Message-ID: <BANLkTin9DMOWDwwGdb9-b64+pY-NNn90cA at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Greetings Unto Ansteorra and her College of Heralds!
> 
> The time has come for yet another CoH decision meeting... Those things
> sure do seem to stack up. This month's material is rather slim, so the
> meeting will go by fast. As it will be taking place at Stargate/Loch
> Baronials this weekend, I'd like to encourage anyone with questions
> about the Heraldic submissions process, or anything else to please
> feel free to come attend. The meeting is open to all, and even if the
> decisions themselves go by rather quickly, there will be plenty of
> time for any questions or comments. Please take advantage of this
> opportunity to come and meet some of the members of your submissions
> team.
> 
> The meeting is open to all who wish to attend, so please feel free to
> come out. At this time, not being certain of what is going on under
> the covered pavilion, I will be planning to host the meeting in the
> Seawinds area of camp. Look for our banner (It's gold & blue, with an
> embattled Escallop for those who might not be aware) or just look for
> all the Soul-pads! You may want to bring a chair.
> 
> The items under consideration are located on the March 2011 Internal
> Letter of Intent and are located at:
> http://ace.heraldry.ansteorra.org/letter/view/43
> 
> 
> 1. Alys Langton (Seawinds, Shire of) Resubmitted Device.
> 2. Beonne seo brune (Steppes, Barony of) New Name and Badge.
> 3. Dmitri Davidovich Volkhovsky (Steppes, Barony of) New Name.
> 
> Commentary on the above items will close on Friday April 8 at 10 AM
> sharp, so if you've any input to offer please make sure it gets
> entered on ACE before that time.
> 
> Pray know I remain Your servant,
> 
> Ld Andrewe Bawldwyn
> Bordure Herald
> 
> -- 
> Joseph M. Percer, AAS, LP
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:45:27 -0500
> From: "Lisa Theriot" <lisatheriot at ravenboymusic.com>
> To: <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] books looking for homes
> Message-ID: <B70F5FDBAC07439BBC70F358BBC898E6 at Theriot1>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Magnus,
> 
> The Rymut is definitely one of those library-authorized copies of
> out-of-print materials.  The pages are flat to the point that they had
> to have been unbound, and the library marks are on the first page of the
> introduction.  I'm not sure about all of them; the Withycombe may simply
> have been copied to loose leaf to survive life at the consulting table.
> That's why I want to bring them out for inspection so everyone knows
> exactly what they are getting.
> 
> We discovered at Herald's Point at Gulf Wars that the recent paperback
> edition of Bardsley, though appearing legit, was evidently done the
> old-fashioned way-- one page is almost completely obscured by the
> reproduced image of someone's hand holding the book open on the copier!
> 
> 
> Adelaide
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:09:17 -0500
> From: "Lisa Theriot" <lisatheriot at ravenboymusic.com>
> To: <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] more books
> Message-ID: <A54CBFD3CA094947A499BD7C52F274B4 at Theriot1>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I will have even more books on Saturday than previously listed; another
> bookcase has had to be sacrificed.  I'll post the titles after I pick up
> the books.  One that is included is a brand-new hardback copy of Volume
> IV of the Lexicon of Greek Personal Names, for which she'd like $75 if
> anyone is interested.  It's a $300 book.  I've already spoken for the
> "compact" OED.
> 
> This lot should include standard references like Black, Bardsley,
> Ekwall, etc., as well as more esoteric stuff like Jonsjo and von
> Feilitzen.
> 
> It looks like the elevation has been moved to evening court, so I won't
> have to be there at the crack of doom.  Andrewe has graciously offered
> to host the sale in conjunction with the decision meeting at 4:00.  Come
> for the meeting, stay for the book sale.
> 
> 
> Adelaide
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:10:19 -0500
> From: HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,    Inc."
>    <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] more books
> Message-ID: <BANLkTikMyA+UBNVnKRace8vDbqEpOmK-Eg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Anything that's German I would definitely like to take a look at.
> 
> But I'm looking forward to seeing whatever you've got.
> 
> Detlef von Marburg
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Lisa Theriot
> <lisatheriot at ravenboymusic.com>wrote:
> 
>> I will have even more books on Saturday than previously listed; another
>> bookcase has had to be sacrificed.  I'll post the titles after I pick up
>> the books.  One that is included is a brand-new hardback copy of Volume
>> IV of the Lexicon of Greek Personal Names, for which she'd like $75 if
>> anyone is interested.  It's a $300 book.  I've already spoken for the
>> "compact" OED.
>> 
>> This lot should include standard references like Black, Bardsley,
>> Ekwall, etc., as well as more esoteric stuff like Jonsjo and von
>> Feilitzen.
>> 
>> It looks like the elevation has been moved to evening court, so I won't
>> have to be there at the crack of doom.  Andrewe has graciously offered
>> to host the sale in conjunction with the decision meeting at 4:00.  Come
>> for the meeting, stay for the book sale.
>> 
>> 
>> Adelaide
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Hw?t! We Gardena         in geardagum,
> ?eodcyninga,         ?rym gefrunon,
> hu ?a ??elingas         ellen fremedon.
> Oft Scyld Scefing         scea?ena ?reatum,
> monegum m?g?um,         meodosetla ofteah,
> egsode eorlas.         Sy??an ?rest wear?
> feasceaft funden,         he ??s frofre gebad,
> weox under wolcnum,         weor?myndum ?ah,
> o???t him ?ghwylc         ?ara ymbsittendra
> ofer hronrade         hyran scolde,
> gomban gyldan.         ??t w?s god cyning!
> 
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