[ANSTHRLD] Heirs to Principalities--Title Question

[HerrDetlef]

This is what I have so far:

In An Tir, the heirs to the Principality of Tir Righ are titled Tanist and
Ban-Tanist, and they are styled Excellency.

In the West Kingdom, the heirs to the Principality of The Mists are titled
Lord and Lady of the Mists, the heirs to the Principality of Cynagua are
titled Lord and Lady of the Swan, and the heirs to the Principality of
Oertha are titled Lord and Lady Borealis (thanks to Brian for that last
one!).

I looked on the Drachenwald page, and they've got two principalities:
Nordmark in Sweden, and Insulae Draconis in the British Isles. The website
for Nordmark is in Swedish, and the first Prince and Princess of Insulae
Draconis are still reigning.

Countess Tessa wrote me this morning, and she told me that she and Simonn
were Tanist and Tanista of Ansteorra before their investiture as Prince and
Princess.

And now I know that the heirs to the Principality of Drachenwald were titled
Tanist and Tanista (thank you, Tadhg!)

That's all I have right now. What I haven't seen is anyone following the
mundane precedent of heirs to principalities (such as Liechtenstein) being
titled Hereditary Prince and Hereditary Princess and being styled Serene
Highness in the same way that the Prince and Princess of Liechtenstein are.

Thanks for all the wonderful information, everybody!

Detlef

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM, <ld_tadhg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I'm not sure how they were styled at the time; however, Tanist and Tanista
> were the titles for the Heirs to the Principality of Drachenwald.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tadhg
>
> ...brick by brick
>
> --- On Sun, 4/3/11, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com>
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Heirs to Principalities--Title Question
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <
> heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 3:58 PM
>
> This is one that we don't mess with much here in Ansteorra, but for anyone
> who travels out of kingdom...
>
> What is the SCA custom for titles and styles for heirs to principalities?
>
> To draw on mundane precedent: the heirs to the princpality of Liechtenstein
> are titled "Hereditary Prince" and "Hereditary Princess" ("Erbprinz" and
> "Erbprinzessin"), and they are styled "Serene Highness" in the same way
> that
> the Prince and Princess are.
>
> But if memory serves, I have heard of some principalities calling their
> heirs "Tanist" and "Tanista," while some others call theirs "Lord" and
> "Lady" of the principality in question. And I have no clue about style (for
> that matter, I'm not sure if even the Princes and Princesses are styled
> "Serene Highness").
>
> I'm working on a chart of titles and styles that go with various ranks, and
> I want to be accurate.
>
> Yours in these Current Middle Ages,
> Detlef von Marburg
> Tir Medóin Pursuivant
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-- 
Hwæt! We Gardena         in geardagum,
þeodcyninga,         þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas         ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing         sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum,         meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas.         Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden,         he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum,         weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc         þara ymbsittendra
ofer hronrade         hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan.         þæt wæs god cyning!