[ANSTHRLD] Device attempt 2

[Etienne de St. Amaranth]

Yes.  I want to clarify that bendlets are not just lines.  The are thick lines.  Basically about one-third the thickness of a normal bend.

These would be straight, or plain line, and not engrailed.  Or you could have a bend that is engrailed.

Respectfully,
Sent from my iPhone,

Etienne

On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:37 PM, charles armitage <charlesarmitage at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I see!
> 
> So if I went with:
> 
> Sable, two bendlets argent and overall a phoenix proper.
> 
> This is a black field with two white lines running from upper left to lower 
> right and a phoenix in full color in the center overtop the lines, yes?Does it 
> matter what those lines look like? in the engrailed form it looks sort of wavy, 
> would this description only allow them to be straight lines? 
>  Ld Kylan Ulfgierrson mka Charles
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> half of you half as well as you deserve." 
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> Kylan,
> 
> Per bend means that you have a dividing line going diagonally from the upper 
> left (as you look it) to the lower right (also called from dexter chief to 
> sinister base).  On either side of the dividing line you have two different 
> tinctures.  In what you described below, you just have a sable field (black 
> background).
> 
> Items with complex lines of divisions or edges cannot be voided.  But if you did 
> void a bend you would have two lines in the color of the bend.  If you just made 
> a thin bend, that is a bendlet and bendlets and pallets and chevronelles don't 
> appear singly in medieval armory.
> 
> If you drop the engrailed, you could try either of the following (which I have 
> not conflict checked):
> 
> Sable, two bendlets argent and overall a phoenix proper.  (I think a default 
> Phoenix is rising so you would not need to blazon that.)
> 
> Sable, a bend engrailed to chief argent and overall a Phoenix proper.  (That 
> would get you the upper engrailed edge but would be a full bend and not just a 
> line.)
> 
> Respectfully,
> Sent from my iPhone,
> 
> Etienne
> 
> On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, charles armitage <charlesarmitage at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't know how you guys do this lol but here we go...
>> 
>> I've been doing some thinking and looking and had a thought but again couldn't 
> 
>> really find anything that said if it can be done...
>> 
>> Sable, per bend voided engrailed argent a Phoenix rising from flame proper
>> 1. Can you void a per bend engrailed
>> 
>> (Which I would assume would be a black shield with a jagged white/silver line 
>> from top left to bottom right.)
>> 
>> 2. When you say proper this means the natural colors the charge would have, so 
> 
>> if I say a phoenix proper would that allow me to place it centered over top of 
> 
>> the per bend, even though there will be yellow and red in the phoenix's natural 
>> 
>> coloring?
>>   Ld Kylan Ulfgierrson mka Charles
>> "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than 
>> half of you half as well as you deserve." 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Kate Middleton gets coat of arms
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>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Kevinkeary at aol.com <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org> wrote:
>>> My bet is that Laurel's next letter, or at most the one after, will
>>> include these arms as 'important non-SCA arms', right alongside the
>>> arms of other royals, British or not.
>> 
>> I'll take that bet.  A Name Pattern Search at
>> http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi does not show Bowes, Spencer, or
>> Ferguson, the three maiden names of ladies recently marrying into The
>> Firm that I know off the top of my head.
>> 
>> Laurel might or might not rule that they're protected, but I suspect
>> that they would not thereby make it into the Armorial.
>> 
>> Danielis Lindocolina
>> -- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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