[ANSTHRLD] Foamy Beer mug
Kevinkeary at aol.com
Kevinkeary at aol.com
Sun Apr 24 21:20:29 PDT 2011
Gaining extra CDs will help with conflict, it won't help with poor
contrast. However, if the foam is of equal visual impact to the tankard, basically
bubbling up over half the height of the tankard and sliding down the side
as well, then the charge might be ruled 'half light and half dark', and be
considered neutral for contrast.
Kevin
In a message dated 4/24/2011 10:22:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jpercer at gmail.com writes:
You couldn't get a CD for type against a "doubly-curved drinking
horn?" I'd say that a tankard and a doubly-curved drinking horn ought
to be clearly visually different, maybe not X2 different but worth at
least a CD... Can you cite precedent for the lack of CD in that case?
Also the submitter could consider making the bordure complex, to gain
a 2nd CD to get away from the poor-contrast problem of a 'proper' cup.
Andrewe
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Consider "Vert, a tankard Or foamed argent within a bordure Or" versus
...
>
> ... "Per bend sinister sable and azure, a chalice and a bordure Or."
(Ursula the Saxon, Device, May 1996) I se 1 CD for the change of tincture to
the field but nothing for the type of cup or foam. Versus a "wooden
tankard proper" I see a 2nd CD for change of tincture to the cup.
>
> ... "Vert, a goblet Or between three escallops inverted argent all
within a bordure Or." (Elizabeta da Porta, Device, Mar 2010) I see 1 CD for the
removal of the escallops but nothing for the type of cup or foam. Versus
a "wooden tankard proper" I see a 2nd CD for change of tincture to the cup.
>
> ... "Vert, a doubly-curved drinking horn argent, garnished, within a
bordure Or." (Anna Georgievna of Kiev, Device, May 1987) I see 1 CD for the
change of tincture to the cup but nothing for the type of cup or foam.
Versus a "wooden tankard proper" doesn't help.
>
> Sorry,
> Tostig
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Crandall <crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Crandall <crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Foamy Beer mug
> To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List"
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 6:51 PM
>
>
> Tankards and other such things are considered "cups" in the OANDA.
>
> Meadhbh ni Dhubhthaigh
> The following badge associated with this name was registered in April of
2010 (via Atenveldt):
> Sable, a tankard Or foamed argent between in chief five gouts in chevron
Or.
> Isengau, Shire of
> The following device associated with this name was registered in
February of 2002 (via Drachenwald):
> Sable, a tankard Or foamed argent within a laurel wreath within a
bordure embattled Or.
>
> These are quick checks, not to imply either conflict or non-conflict.
>
> Crandall, Olde Phart
>
> "In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one
should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably,
contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth Galbraith
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Amanda Baucum <kyrogue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Amanda Baucum <kyrogue at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check and Advice
>> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 6:15 PM
>> The submitter wishes to register:
>>
>> Vert, a wooden tankard proper foamed argent within a
>> bordure or
>>
>> I need to know first if the proper will conflict with the
>> field. If not can
>> I get help conflict checking?
>>
>> If it does create a problem the alternate is:
>>
>> Vert, a tankard or foamed argent within a bordure or
>>
>> And this will still need help conflict checking (I'm not
>> 100% what all the
>> terms for cups I'll have to be looking at)
>>
>> Thanks for any help and for your time!
>>
>> ~Alys Langton
>> Seawinds Herald
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