[ANSTHRLD] Blazon and conflict help (Wolf head and mitre)

[Joseph Percer]

Let's find one?

Andrewe, the pot-stirrer

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Tadhg <ld_tadhg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think I would challenge that particular precedent...if we had a bishop making a submission. I'm pretty sure we don't prohibit a bishop from being a member.
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> [August 1983 LoAR, R-Atenveldt] Gustav Athanasius von Hausenstadt. (badge).
> Azure, upon a sun Or a Latin cross azure, in chief a bishop's mitre between two crosses couped Or.
> NOTE: Badge unacceptable. The bishop's mitre is the heraldic symbol for a bishop and
>  should only be borne by a bishop. As there are no bishops allowed in the SCA,
> the bishop's mitre is hereby forbidden for use in the SCA.
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>> From: lisatheriot at ravenboymusic.com
>> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:22:57 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Blazon and conflict help (Wolf head and mitre)
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>> [I didn't think about that being an issue because it is not in the list
>> of Restricted or Reserved charges.]
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>> It IS on the list of prohibited charges.  The reserved charge list is
>> only for charges reserved due to their significance in the SCA;
>> restricted charges due to mundane meaning are in the prohibited list.
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>> The "cardinal's hat" is found in non-religious armory and is therefore
>> not restricted.  I disagree, though, that as drawn the hat is of equal
>> weight; it's just a big hat.  If the wolf appears to be wearing it, I
>> think it plummets below the CD level and you run afoul of:
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>> Stefan von Bernhardt
>> The following badge associated with this name was registered in April of
>> 1981 (via Atlantia):
>> Per bend sinister azure and vert, a wolf's head caboshed argent.
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>> I think it's possible to draw, for example, "Gules, in pale a cardinal's
>> hat and a wolf's head cabossed argent" such that they are coequal
>> primaries, but the hat would need to be visibly separated from the
>> wolf's head (though with the strings and tassels that go with the
>> cardinal's hat, you could still involve them in an artistic way which
>> would not change the heraldic weight).
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>> Adelaide
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Joseph M. Percer, AAS, LP