[ANSTHRLD] Cardinal Hats Was: Blazon and conflict help (Wolf head and mitre)

[Pat Mullins]

Darn it stripped out the picture I had pasted in...
Paedric

From: Pat Mullins <paedrics at yahoo.com>
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 4:26 PM
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Cardinal Hats Was: Blazon and conflict help (Wolf head and mitre)

You left out St louis Cardinal Hats.             
Paedric
(afflicting the comfortable)
 
BTW, this site also has a really good example of a mitre. (It's what the Pope is wearing...)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lOEngo4nqk4/R0wU6xYBSLI/AAAAAAAAAA0/ljDLyu4KYpA/s400/cardinal-oswald-gracias-pope.jpg  


From: Crandall <crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com>
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Blazon and conflict help (Wolf head and mitre)

Heraldic Cardinal hat 
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/27900/27922/cardinal_hat_27922_md.gif 

Italian biretta - Cardinal hat 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lOEngo4nqk4/R0wU6xYBSLI/AAAAAAAAAA0/ljDLyu4KYpA/s400/cardinal-oswald-gracias-pope.jpg 

Louisville Cardinal hat 
http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_351000/FF_351559_xl.jpg 



"In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth Galbraith


--- On Wed, 6/1/11, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote:

> From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Blazon and conflict help (Wolf head and mitre)
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 1:41 PM
> What is the visual difference between
> a mitre and a cardinal's hat?  I 
> don't have a pic dic to look at.
> 
> Thanks,
> Donnchadh
> 
> On 6/1/2011 1:22 PM, Lisa Theriot wrote:
> > [I didn't think about that being an issue because it
> is not in the list
> > of Restricted or Reserved charges.]
> >
> > It IS on the list of prohibited charges.  The
> reserved charge list is
> > only for charges reserved due to their significance in
> the SCA;
> > restricted charges due to mundane meaning are in the
> prohibited list.
> >
> > The "cardinal's hat" is found in non-religious armory
> and is therefore
> > not restricted.  I disagree, though, that as
> drawn the hat is of equal
> > weight; it's just a big hat.  If the wolf appears
> to be wearing it, I
> > think it plummets below the CD level and you run afoul
> of:
> >
> > Stefan von Bernhardt
> > The following badge associated with this name was
> registered in April of
> > 1981 (via Atlantia):
> > Per bend sinister azure and vert, a wolf's head
> caboshed argent.
> >
> > I think it's possible to draw, for example, "Gules, in
> pale a cardinal's
> > hat and a wolf's head cabossed argent" such that they
> are coequal
> > primaries, but the hat would need to be visibly
> separated from the
> > wolf's head (though with the strings and tassels that
> go with the
> > cardinal's hat, you could still involve them in an
> artistic way which
> > would not change the heraldic weight).
> >
> >
> > Adelaide
> >
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