[ANSTHRLD] a question about supporters on achievements

Vyolante Oporto vyolante at gmail.com
Tue Jun 14 10:50:38 PDT 2011


Dont you get supporters with Peerages?
Vy

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Duncan Hepburn
<duncan at stormypetrel.org> wrote:
> Thanks for clearing that up for me Serena... and for the education on
> my situation.
>
> ~DH
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Diane Rudin <serena1570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Other way around -- dexter supporter is to the right of the shield from the POV
>> of the person holding the shield, not the observer of the shield. Same as the
>> dexter side of the shield is the right side of the shield from the POV of the
>> person holding the shield.  In plainer English, in heraldry your right is your
>> left and your left is your right. So the dexter supporter is the one to the
>> *left* side of the shield as you look at it.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have the painful duty of pointing out that you aren't entitled
>> to register supporters yet, since you don't have a noble title separate from the
>> BiF. Registering personal supporters prior to successful completion of your
>> tenure as Steppes B&B is anticipating the future acquisition of the CB.  The CB
>> for retiring BiF's who were not previously CB's is granted at the pleasure of
>> the Crown, and while we all hope that nothing goes terribly wrong, past history
>> has taught us to take nothing for granted (literally) in this area. It would be
>> an awful mess to register supporters now and then have them revoked if something
>> unanticipated happened. We don't register supporters & coronet to first-time
>> Crowns who have not yet completed their reigns either, and for the same reason.
>>
>> Robin, can you explain this more clearly, since You Were There when they were
>> coming up with these rules?
>>
>> (And why didn't y'all write all of this down somewhere back then?)
>>
>> --Serena, Blanc Gryffon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Duncan Hepburn <duncan at stormypetrel.org>
>>> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
>>><heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 11:07:32 AM
>>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] a question about supporters on achievements
>>>
>>> I was looking at the ACoH Achievement Registration Form (yes, I'm
>>> finally  getting around to registering mine) and I had a question about
>>> the position  of the supporters. When You are listing the dexter
>>> supporter, is that to the  right of the shield as you look at it?
>>>
>>> My brain isn't aligned for  heraldish thinking this morning  obviously.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Duncan
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