[ANSTHRLD] a question about supporters on achievements

[Crandall]

Supporters are for Nobility

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--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Vyolante Oporto <vyolante at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Vyolante Oporto <vyolante at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] a question about supporters on achievements
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:50 PM
> Dont you get supporters with
> Peerages?
> Vy
> 
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Duncan Hepburn
> <duncan at stormypetrel.org>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for clearing that up for me Serena... and for
> the education on
> > my situation.
> >
> > ~DH
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Diane Rudin <serena1570 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> Other way around -- dexter supporter is to the
> right of the shield from the POV
> >> of the person holding the shield, not the observer
> of the shield. Same as the
> >> dexter side of the shield is the right side of the
> shield from the POV of the
> >> person holding the shield.  In plainer English,
> in heraldry your right is your
> >> left and your left is your right. So the dexter
> supporter is the one to the
> >> *left* side of the shield as you look at it.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I have the painful duty of pointing
> out that you aren't entitled
> >> to register supporters yet, since you don't have a
> noble title separate from the
> >> BiF. Registering personal supporters prior to
> successful completion of your
> >> tenure as Steppes B&B is anticipating the
> future acquisition of the CB.  The CB
> >> for retiring BiF's who were not previously CB's is
> granted at the pleasure of
> >> the Crown, and while we all hope that nothing goes
> terribly wrong, past history
> >> has taught us to take nothing for granted
> (literally) in this area. It would be
> >> an awful mess to register supporters now and then
> have them revoked if something
> >> unanticipated happened. We don't register
> supporters & coronet to first-time
> >> Crowns who have not yet completed their reigns
> either, and for the same reason.
> >>
> >> Robin, can you explain this more clearly, since
> You Were There when they were
> >> coming up with these rules?
> >>
> >> (And why didn't y'all write all of this down
> somewhere back then?)
> >>
> >> --Serena, Blanc Gryffon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Duncan Hepburn <duncan at stormypetrel.org>
> >>> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,
> Inc."
> >>><heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >>> Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 11:07:32 AM
> >>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] a question about
> supporters on achievements
> >>>
> >>> I was looking at the ACoH Achievement
> Registration Form (yes, I'm
> >>> finally  getting around to registering mine)
> and I had a question about
> >>> the position  of the supporters. When You are
> listing the dexter
> >>> supporter, is that to the  right of the
> shield as you look at it?
> >>>
> >>> My brain isn't aligned for  heraldish
> thinking this morning  obviously.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Duncan
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