[ANSTHRLD] Cardinal Proper

Kevinkeary kevinkeary at aol.com
Tue May 3 13:37:06 PDT 2011


I agree. It doesn't have to be identifed by the species name for everyone to know how it's colored. And it would have easily been known to Europeans before 1600.


You might have to specify a male cardinal proper, since the female's colors are much more muted.

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From: Pat Mullins <paedrics at yahoo.com>
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I don't see why there wouldn't be a cardinal proper... 
From: Eldwin Nightowl <eldwin at loveshade.org>
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ent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 2:54 PM
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onsider a cardinal (the male bird, not the holy dude) on arms.

) Is there such a thing as a cardinal proper (I suspect there isn't)?

) If there isn't a cardinal proper, how would you blazon a cardinal as being 
ed with different colored legs and feet (often depicted, inaccurately, as sable 
r Or) and beak (in real life generally orange or reddish orange, but often 
epicted as Or)?  The only tinctures that are definitely wanted are a red body 
ith black on the face; the rest is open to whatever would work best.  (Field is 
ndecided).

ldwin Nightowl
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