[ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Per pile througout gules and or, a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed

Bob Wade logiosophia at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 23 15:49:04 PDT 2012


Unfortunately, the emblazon is returnable for not being blazonable.
 
"This is not a pile, because it issues from the top corners of the shield. Nor is it chaussé, because it does not extend all the way to base. Nor is it a chief triangular, because it is much too deep. Nor is it a per chevron inverted field division, because it does not issue from the sides of the field. As a result, this must be returned." (October 2001 LOAR, return of device for Rickard of Gwyntarian)
 
There's a nice article showing how each is drawn at http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/lessons/blurring1.html
 
Note that "Or a pile gules and overall a lion and a stag combattant" has a conflict versus "Or, a pile gules" (Chandos [Important non-SCA arms], Device, Dec 1994).  There's only 1 CD under the current rules for adding the overall charge group under RfS X.4c.
 
If memory serves, you can't have charges on the sides of a chaussé field.  Would have to do a Precedent search (Daniel could probably cite it off the top of his head) to be sure.
 
However, "Per chevron inverted gules and Or, a lion and a stab combattant" seems clear.   Redraw and have others double-check that.
 
Tostig

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, Darnell Daniels <dmage121 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Darnell Daniels <dmage121 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Per pile througout gules and or, a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed
To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCAInc. Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 9:22 AM


I have a submission in the works. I have checked the armorial, but wanted to see what the community at large thought. 
The image can be found below.

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Robert of Colesford
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